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Wisconsin senators' absence raises questions on tactic ('setting themselves up for a BIG failure')
Yahoo ^ | 2/19/11 | Eric Johnson

Posted on 02/19/2011 6:54:32 PM PST by Libloather

Wisconsin senators' absence raises questions on tactic
By Eric Johnson – 17 mins ago

CHICAGO (Reuters) – As demonstrators wrangled on Saturday over Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's move to weaken public unions, analysts weighed the consequences of 14 Democratic senators' decision to flee the state to stall the bill's consideration.

**SNIP**

"As far as the constitution goes, there is nothing that expressly forbids their actions," Copelovitch said. "But if the same thing that is happening in Wisconsin spreads to other states, there should be explicit rules written to forbid it."

Senator Jon Erpenbach said Friday that the senators were prepared to be away for weeks, and Assembly Minority Leader Peter Barca said he didn't know when they would return.

"Sooner or later all 14 will have to return--they are away from their states, homes, and businesses," said Sabato, adding that a vote is inevitable and the mathematics is not on the side of the Democrats.

"The upside is that they have brought a lot of attention to their point of view. The downside is they are setting themselves up for a big failure in public relations at some point," Sabato said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: fail; senators; tactic; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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To: kevao

21 posted on 02/19/2011 7:21:51 PM PST by BAW (I know whose ass to kick.)
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To: kevao

Got it. Couldn’t agree more; get it over with and put them out of their misery.


22 posted on 02/19/2011 7:22:16 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: kevao

Got it. Couldn’t agree more; get it over with and put them out of their misery.


23 posted on 02/19/2011 7:22:51 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Libloather

They need to do something huge like CCW’s for everyone.

Or a 10 month waiting period on abortions.

Because this tactic will be used in every state and every county.


24 posted on 02/19/2011 7:23:52 PM PST by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama. Then try him for treason.)
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To: BAW
Plus it's hard to run a campaign to fight a recall from a hotel room in Illinois. And if they step into Wisconsin, have the state police nab them and haul them back to the capitol for the vote.

How is a quorum determined in the Wisconsin senate? Since every single Democrat senator fled the state, there is no one to demand a roll call. Can the Republicans just assert that there is a quorum unless there is an objection? The Texas senators who fled the state left one or two behind to force quorum calls, but the Wisconsin ones didn't have that luxury.

25 posted on 02/19/2011 7:24:43 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: MNlurker

Thanks - I hope you are right. I know Scott Walker has the spine for it, but, with RINOs, one never knows. There is one loony Senator in Racine who actually wants to put a 2 year sunset amendment on the removal of the collective bargaining. (ugh)


26 posted on 02/19/2011 7:26:06 PM PST by chickadee
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To: Libloather

The longer this stays in the national news the better. Not even the mainstream media can save the image of the leftist loser teachers and their union thug masters.


27 posted on 02/19/2011 7:26:55 PM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: NoLibZone
Pass a photo ID requirement for voting... or (even more extreme) pass a law to clear the voter registration list and make everyone in the state reregister. That should wipe out years of fraud, multiple registrations, left overs from those moving out of state and the occasional Chicago-style zombie voter.
28 posted on 02/19/2011 7:27:38 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: MNlurker
There are two or three Republican Senators that could “go wobbly” that's what the Democrats are hoping for. The sad thing is one Dem. Senator was reelected by 403 votes. The teacher's union spent a couple of hundred thousand $ on her campaign. Without that there would be 20 Republican Senators.
29 posted on 02/19/2011 7:34:27 PM PST by Hamilcar_Barca
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To: chickadee

Yeah Van Waangard...he whined to his constituents in a letter that he never imagined he’d have to make these type of difficult choices. He’s a $(@$@(* coward, but so far I guess he’s holding up...from the sounds of it the Jesse Jackson’s of the world showing up has only strengthened the resolve to get this done.


30 posted on 02/19/2011 7:34:30 PM PST by MNlurker
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To: NoLibZone

To quote my 17 year old son your post was “epic.”


31 posted on 02/19/2011 7:37:05 PM PST by RoseyT
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To: Libloather

I want to know whose money is paying for their hotel and travel expenses. Are they financing this themselves or using taxpayer money? The latter option would really raise questions.

Or maybe the DNC is footing the bill.


32 posted on 02/19/2011 7:38:54 PM PST by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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To: MNlurker

Thank you, I am very cheered up after reading you.


33 posted on 02/19/2011 7:40:14 PM PST by chickadee
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To: Libloather

Unions are for people too weak to negotiate their own compensation.


34 posted on 02/19/2011 7:40:16 PM PST by axxmann (If McCain is conservative then I'm a freakin' anarchist.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

“Well thank you Cap’t Obvious. That point has come and gone Mr. Sabato-you less than intelligent wazoo”.
LOL, Keith in Iowa, LOL!


35 posted on 02/19/2011 7:42:01 PM PST by Mountain Mary (The Pack is Back. Rodgers/Matthews 2012.)
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To: Libloather

Did you read the comments after the article where some idiot (Nicole I think) said there had been TRILLIONS of dollars made since the stock market rebounded the past two years???????????????? What was she smoking?


36 posted on 02/19/2011 7:42:41 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Green Bay Packers - SuperBowl 45 champs)
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To: freespirited
Are they financing this themselves or using taxpayer money? The latter option would really raise questions.

Most likely your "stimulus" tax dollars at work....

37 posted on 02/19/2011 7:45:10 PM PST by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: chickadee

I’ll be much happier if I’m right!!! ;)


38 posted on 02/19/2011 7:45:58 PM PST by MNlurker
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To: MNlurker

I just “unfriended” a person on Facebook that I’ve known for about ten years. She was posting in favor of the Rats, and I just don’t feel like dealing with it anymore.


39 posted on 02/19/2011 7:51:27 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: freespirited
"I want to know whose money is paying for their hotel and travel expenses."

Actually an interesting question, I don't know about WI but in Florida State reps don't make that much money, it has to be a big personal drain. If the DNC or Obama using Federal funds and somehow paying for this I would think people would think that was a very, very serious problem.

40 posted on 02/19/2011 7:54:22 PM PST by WHBates
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