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Arrest made in fatal argument over Mexican states [which Mexican state is best]
OC Register ^ | Feb. 18, 2011 | DENISSE SALAZAR

Posted on 02/19/2011 9:40:46 AM PST by bornred

SANTA ANA Police arrested a man, a woman and a teenage boy on suspicion of killing a bystander following a fight between two groups over which Mexican state is best, authorities said Friday.

Ivan Sanchez, 21, of Santa Ana was arrested Thursday evening on suspicion of killing 35-year-old Esteban Navarrete, and of attempting to kill Navarrete’s wife and friends, Santa Ana police Cpl. Anthony Bertagna said.

Police detectives got a call from an anonymous person who apparently recognized Sanchez from a surveillance video released by police Wednesday, Bertagna said.

Homicide detectives learned Sanchez was possibly fleeing to Mexico to avoid arrest, Bertagna said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; immigration; mexico
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To: bornred; LibreOuMort
Partial to Guanajuato, but outside of the D.F. it's all I know of Mexico. My grandfather retired to San Miguel de Allende in the 1950s or 60s (most of his career was spent in Latin America; he was fluent in Spanish and on his 90th birthday I saw how much the locals loved him). I stayed one full summer as a boy, when San Miguel was still small.

He and his second wife are interred together under the altar of the church he and her previous husband built there -- the last charge from her husband to him was, "Take care of M_ when I've gone" and he did. Seniors can find true love too, and though they were "quite proper" you could see their devotion to each other, well into their late 90s.

Such are my memories of Mexico. My uncle, who lives there now, is selling the place so it's not likely I'll ever return. And maybe that's a good thing, reading what Mexico has become; maybe sometimes it's better not to mar the memories of what was good with today's ruination of same.

It is truly sad, what Mexico has lost.

21 posted on 02/19/2011 4:51:54 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Hosni: "I am an Arab warrior, not a community organizer.")
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To: sionnsar

Mexicans are to blame for this. They’ve turned a beautiful country, a rich one, a gift from God they’ve turned into a criminalized, corrupted and violent cesspool they can’t run away from fast enough and would fight like the devil not to be sent back to. If Mexicans would put just half the energy into fixing the land God gave them then they do into breaking into mine then maybe Mexico will be a place they won’t have to run away from.


22 posted on 02/19/2011 5:53:06 PM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: jmacusa; LibreOuMort
Some, yes. All, no. It doesn't take many bad apples to ruin the entire bushel.

But I also agree with you: Americans are responsible for what America is today under Obama. I blame every single American who never lifted a finger, who never joined a campaign, who never contributed so much as one thin dime to conservative campaigns, for the state of American today. I blame folks who might have "felt" they did their duty by voting (and an awful lot didn't even get to that point).

I have done ALL of the above for a number of decades. Have you? And your friends / co-workers and more?

It's way too easy to lose a decent republic -- and at the risk of sounding like a libertarian, the good ole USA and its drug laws (jeez, I'm beginning to sound like W.F. Buckley) have created a situation where the drug cartels could arise. Didn't we see something like this in the short duration of Prohibition?

But naah. The latter were all Italians (except for the Irish smuggler Kennedies). Nothing like today.

Never mind.

You are right: it's the Mexicans. They can't help themselves; after all, they're NOT like us good and proud Americans, who will keep everything right and perfect forever.

/ s

23 posted on 02/19/2011 7:14:13 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|The media is our country's worst enemy.)
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To: sionnsar

Your sarcasm is mis-directed and your attempt at painting me as bigot is too. Mexicans made the mess of their country and they’re now making a mess of mine. The respect of and the rule of law makes America what it is, Mexicans may know this or they may not but they come here because they don’t have it in Mexico. They need to and then maybe their land will be ‘’perfect’’ like America.


24 posted on 02/19/2011 7:27:20 PM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: sionnsar

And have I ever done anything to get the vote out? Yes, plenty and know this pal: I used to be a Democrat/socialist and a union member . So I know how the other side works and I make sure my conservative friends know too.


25 posted on 02/19/2011 7:30:24 PM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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