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Where Have The Good Men Gone?
Wall Street Journal ^ | 2/19/11 | Kay S. Hymowitz

Posted on 02/19/2011 5:18:54 AM PST by jimbo123

Kay S. Hymowitz argues that too many men in their 20s are living in a new kind of extended adolescence

Not so long ago, the average American man in his 20s had achieved most of the milestones of adulthood: a high-school diploma, financial independence, marriage and children. Today, most men in their 20s hang out in a novel sort of limbo, a hybrid state of semi-hormonal adolescence and responsible self-reliance. This "pre-adulthood" has much to recommend it, especially for the college-educated. But it's time to state what has become obvious to legions of frustrated young women: It doesn't bring out the best in men.

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1 posted on 02/19/2011 5:18:56 AM PST by jimbo123
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Thanks in part to our cradle to grave, nanny state government, with the assistance of the government run schools’ program of “dumbing down America”.

In other words, busy libs and lazy cons.


2 posted on 02/19/2011 5:23:21 AM PST by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: jimbo123

Who in the world would want to get into a marriage with the “liberated” American woman? Better to play video games until you die. Of course, that means fewer children for the future, but hey...........


3 posted on 02/19/2011 5:23:49 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: jimbo123
But it's time to state what has become obvious to legions of frustrated young women:

Is that a joke? Oh the poor young women...desperately trying to find a husband to be a good wife to and raise a family, but there are no men around to do it. Barf!
4 posted on 02/19/2011 5:28:35 AM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: jimbo123

What do you expect as every ad on TV shows males, especially white males as pasty skinned gutless homosexuals, think Progressive ads.

Most young men I meet have no idea how to be a real man, they have been raised from birth to be metrosexuals. My poor 21 year old stepdaughter is finding this out the hard way.


5 posted on 02/19/2011 5:29:44 AM PST by fuzzybutt (Democrat Lawyers are the root of all evil.)
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To: jimbo123

Societal mores have long shifted from personal responsibility and accomplishment to over-nurturing of self-esteem, instant gratification and a forced feminization of the American male.

Of course this would be the likely result.


6 posted on 02/19/2011 5:29:58 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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There is nothing more pathetic than to see a 20-something with a full beard and enlarging beer-belly ‘skate-boarding’ with the neighborhood kids like a 12-year old


7 posted on 02/19/2011 5:30:19 AM PST by Mr. K (Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got Electrolytes.)
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To: jimbo123

Many in their twenties are still immature babies. Some of them seem like they’re fourteen or fifteen.

The sixties did this. A kind of Peter Pan life emerged out of “no consequences”, if it feels good do it.

Time for society to pay the piper.


8 posted on 02/19/2011 5:30:46 AM PST by kjo
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To: jimbo123

Ask Their moms. The women of the ERA movement sold their daughters a bill of goods saying, they need to have a career before a marriage. So while they went to grad school and were schtuping their boy friends on the weekend, they put every incentive for men to not marry them. Also Men that watched their dads get raked over the financial coals through divorce and not being able to see their kids also did the same to make marriage a disincentive.


9 posted on 02/19/2011 5:33:52 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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Girls who “hook up” provide these men with a series of no-responsibility, no-strings-attached, no-consequences sexual partners. With the inevitable result. Duh.


10 posted on 02/19/2011 5:34:11 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: jimbo123

George Gilder once noted that when women don’t keep the men home and remind them of their responsibilities, the men join warrior societies, which can be seen on the streets of every city in the USA.

Since most men in the middle class have had any notion of violence beaten out of them over the last two generations, maybe those video games have become the substitute.


11 posted on 02/19/2011 5:36:17 AM PST by Daveinyork
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They have been dissed and sent to the back seat for a long time.

The women have taken over the steering wheel.

All you have to do is watch how men are portrayed in TV commercials.

Very sad.


12 posted on 02/19/2011 5:36:49 AM PST by dforest
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Playing on the Playstation with your friends is nothing more than the modern version of playing poker or football with your friends (in times past).

Women didn’t like it then, and they still don’t like it now.

As for the lack of motivation in men... in times past, women needed men, so they nagged men into doing more. Now that things have been equalized, men can go back to living how they’d like to live.

Which, also, women don’t like.

Looks like women just don’t like men. Which is fine and dandy, just don’t look for any kids...


13 posted on 02/19/2011 5:38:12 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: jimbo123
I AM A COSPLAY DIVA

YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID

14 posted on 02/19/2011 5:38:17 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: fuzzybutt

I’ve become numbed to the dumb white male antics of commercials, exposed to way too many....


15 posted on 02/19/2011 5:38:40 AM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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I’m gonna stick up for young American men - for once. I have a tiny apartment in NYC that is inhabited by young, single men who have very good jobs. Otherwise, they would be living in the far reaches of Queens or Brooklyn. They may be immature in many ways, but whenever I need something done: carry my heavy bags up the stoop, fix a blown fuse or help fight off a mugger, they are right there when you need them. In other words, when the rubber hits the road, they are often there for us middle-aged ladies.


16 posted on 02/19/2011 5:44:01 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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I read the article, and the author doesn't have a clue as to the real cause, which is:

the women's liberation movement

What was the #1 message of the women's lib movement? Women don't need to marry, and if they do marry they should certainly wait until after college and estabishing a career before they even consider marriage (ie, after 30).

The one thing that has historicly turned boys into men is marriage (and the responsibilities that come with it). Just seriously comtemplating the idea of marriage is enough to turn the irresponsible boy/man into a serious adult male.

For generations of males, that comptempation took place in the teen years. By the time a male reached 20, they were either married or seriously considering getting married soon, and their attitude reflected it. For the most part, they were serious adults by that age.

Enter the women's movement with it's message of putting off marriage until later in life. The message resonated with males also, who now now don't start to seriously think about marriage until 30 or even 35.

Responsibility is the force that turns boys into men. The responsibilities of marriage (providing for a wife and children) has been the #1 factor that has caused boy to mature emotionally into men. With that out of the picture for most males until their 30's (literally middle age) is it any wonder they continue to act like boys until that time?

17 posted on 02/19/2011 5:45:26 AM PST by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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Playing on the Playstation with your friends is nothing more than the modern version of playing ... football
Is that right? You've obviously never played football. Modern male indeed.
18 posted on 02/19/2011 5:48:21 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: miss marmelstein

Look at TV -

- “He went to Jared”
- The Lexus commercials
- The Kaye Jewelers commercials

etc etc.

With no job prospects or ability to earn a decent living, young men just feel that its not something within their capabilities, or desires, to slave away to try to meet expectations that will never happen.


19 posted on 02/19/2011 5:53:21 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: kittymyrib
Exactly!....Many women have as their role models hard core feminists .....women who have been taught to emasculate men....demean them....as insignificant...

Years of Steinem's..... A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle propaganda....

..has the effect of rending men superfluous to women's needs...

..this trickles down through the past 40 years.....and the guys finally get it!....they're redundant!

So why not extend adolescence ....play the endless video games....refuse responsibility....run away from commitment...

...sex is, for the most part, readily available and the guys aren't held to any higher standards than the women themselves....women who often have so little respect for themselves....and the men know it..

...I'm a dinosaur....I can remember, in the late 60's, early 70's when this mindset started.....

..I felt sorry then for the consequences that would surely come....and even sadder now with the years of lost hopes and broken dreams and countless unborn babies carelessly discarded along the way.

When my husband was in grad school and we lived on campus in the married housing.....newly minted feminists visited and encouraged the wives to visit their forums...

..where they presented the 'future' if we would just shed our conservative, old fashioned ideas and upbringing.....and join them in changing to the new woman, strong & free....(or some such nonsense)

They encouraged us to reclaim our maiden names....to not bear the stigma of our husband's name....and those of us with children were exhorted to send them to daycare and find a job that would really express our true selves...

..Oh I remember this clearly....most of us were bright but naive.....and unsuspecting of their tools and agenda.

Now, many years later.....the woman asks....'where are the men'....

Maybe they need to research their archives.

20 posted on 02/19/2011 5:55:40 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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