Posted on 02/19/2011 2:32:21 AM PST by trumandogz
Ebie Hussey's first reaction when her son announced that he is gay was to offer unconditional love. Finding a new church was a close second. "His first question was, 'Am I going to hell?' " Hussey said of that conversation with her son, Jaxn. "Mainstream Christianity and fundamental Christianity really pushes that homosexuality is a sin, and he had caught on to that." Jaxn, now 15, knew his parents didn't think that. "But I had always heard people saying that kind of thing," he said. In an effort to counter the message, almost two dozen Houston-area churches have designated Sunday as Bring Your Gay Teen to Church Day.
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First they did away with the blood because blood makes some folks uncomfortable-then sin—but what is Christianity with the atoning blood of the Lamb slain for our transgressions-that we might be reconciled to the Father -and Live and what is there to the Law if they do not hear of sin.A man will not change unless he is convicted of the wages of sin and the
salvation in the shed blood of our Redeemer.
quiller in Johns’ Gospel Chapter 3 it is written “this then is the condemnation a light has come into the world,but men preferred the darkness -because their deeds were evil.(verse 19?) You are correct in your assessment. If they come to the light and see clearly that their deeds are evil there is hope.
If their deeds keep them from the light they are condemned by their own actions. IT is not the attraction that is the evil deed but like King David with another mans wife when he dwelt upon her naked ,in her bath ,and dreamed of acting upon his fantasy then that which he conceived in his heart became sin.
If one of my children indicated that he or she was “gay,” I would immediately begin searching for the adult who had molested him or her.
When a man repents of the sin— is it blotted out? If a man continues in sin-after he has been forgiven -has he made the word of G-d false? OR does he earn the titles you suggest if
exiled would thin the population of most churches. This is why any pew warmer ought pay some attention to his/her congregation-to exort the truth to others and to edify the
Gospel in them.In Christ we are a new Creation.If we repent and choose to continue in sin after we have been forgiven the error /sin -is our own- and we cannot blame our Savior.
‘..almost two dozen Houston-area churches have designated Sunday as Bring Your Gay Teen to Church Day.’
Unbeliebable.
Surely this is the end times.
Very good thinking. Many (most?) homosexuals were molested by the opposite sex as children.
I agree.
Which is why those on this thread who have condemned those with sinful tendencies towards homosexual attraction are flat wrong.
God condemns the action, not the tendency, or we would by definition all be doomed. ALL of us have sinful tendencies and desires, which is exactly why we need the saving grace of Christ.
Homosexuality, like pedophelia, is a vile, disgusting choice that He rejects as an abomination.
And you might be absolutely correct in your belief.
There are times I wish I could come to that level of such absolute certainty in knowing what is in God's heart.
But there are also times in which I have to go with an old monk's approach:
I am not certain that I am perfect in worshipping God.
But I am certain that He loves that I want to be.
Most dads would rather be told they have terminal cancer than have their son tell them he is gay, particularly if it is your only son. Coming out of the closet is a selfish act. It turns your problem into your family’s problem and forces everyone around you to live a lie. I have seen this destroy families. If you are gay, stay in the closet.
Just read God’s words in the Bible - He states very, very clearly that choosing homosexuality is an abomination.
Why would anyone choose to follow a monk’s version of the Truth when God’s word is there for anyone to read.
Go with the original perfect creator (God) - not a failed, human follower of the original.
“Very good thinking. Many (most?) homosexuals were molested by the opposite sex as children. “
They were molested by someone. That’s why the push to ‘normalize’ pedophilia in psych world. Doing so will greatly increase the number of gays, thereby increasing disorder in society, thereby giving those jerks more jobs in their ‘profession’.
A large number, at least. And if it were possible to find non-”gay-affirming” psychological counseling, that would be the other effort I would make. I have no intention of facilitating or approving my children’s participation in promiscuity of any kind.
If you take away the same sex lust then, by definition, you no longer have a homosexual.
“Am I going to hell?”
“Have you entered into a relationship with Christ as your savior?”
The earth, everything in it and everything on it is condemned. Repentance and turning from sin is the only answer. Does that mean sinners never stumble? No. But it does mean that the forgiven pick themselves up and try again. The idea is to become more like Christ. It is referred to as “putting on the mind of Christ”. It means to turn from sinful thoughts and actions. That would include being improperly attracted to same sex people.
Becoming like Christ is a journey. The forgiven fall sometimes and Lucifer then whispers in their ear that they've failed and lost forgiveness. That's not true. God doesn't care if you stumble. What He wants is for you to pick yourself up and start the journey again, leaving your sin behind. What is sin is accepting Christ and living life your way and ignoring sin. God sees man's heart and knows if he's truly repentant. Stumbling on the journey doesn't mean it's over.
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Those in a position of power are telling people that their sin is "ok". It is not. And there will be a heavy price to pay for the lie. Real love tells the truth. Real love and telling the truth takes courage. The church has lost it's spine and lies to people.
I once heard a sermon in which the scenario was people are standing on the edge of a cliff. Their next step will take them over the edge into fire. Will you stop them or sit comfortably and watch? Some will reject and revile you. But others will listen. What will you do?
Only one man never stumbled. Luckily He forgives us.
But we have to ask. The new thing is to make Him accept us as we are and it doesn't work that way. But some churches will say it does. The article says about two dozen of them.
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