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Do you read history?

For the sake of God! Don’t interfere with Obama making a major FUBAR!

As head of the Federal Government, he has no place in a State’s internal matter. He’s making one Hell of a huge Constitutional mistake, an impeachable mistake, in going to Madison, Wisconsin. Obama is arrogant - it will be his undoing.

Because if you do start shooting you will give Obama, as President, the legal opening he needs to call in the military. They WILL do what he orders.

He is President. You would be fomenting maximum misery for yourself and others if you start shooting.

Be patient. Let him make the mistake. He, in his arrogance, is his own worst enemy.

For the sake of God! Don’t interfere with Obama making a major FUBAR!

That seems to be where we disagree. I think he'll more or less get away with the stuff he's pulling now. He's got the media on his side, and a largely apathetic and dumbed-down public. A few might frown at his involvement, but eventually they would forget and just accept the outcome. I think his declaring martial law would be the major FUBAR, on a scale that makes all other FUBARs look good.

Because if you do start shooting you will give Obama, as President, the legal opening he needs to call in the military. They WILL do what he orders.

I think you are wrong there. Some will, some won't. I certainly wouldn't assume that they would follow his call for martial law, because it would be an unprecedented act by an already suspect president. We'd find out what we're all made of then.

Do you read history?

Oh no, of course not. That's just for them educated peoples. But thanks for asking.

For a number of reasons it’s not as simple of that.

The first problem he’s got is Posse Commitatus, add to that that WI like all states has a national guard. This isn’t a national problem, it’s isolated to one state. I think Scott Walker would take exception and Obama would risk this lighting up into something really serious. He also risks more htan half the nation’s governors activating their national guards to stop Obama from doing things there. The military might not support him in that instance.

He also doesn’t have control of the other two branches of Congress. He wouldn’t want to risk doing something that will ultimately blocked as illegitimate. Then he’ll have to choose to break the law and lose his advantage. Media shadow games only go so far. Shut down the internet and EVERYONE gets really pissed.

He’d crash the economy too. I know he wants this, but if he jumped the shark and it was perceived as a power grab, his ground would thin tremendously. He can be impeached and removed and that would probably do it. Granted he probably wouldn’t care and would try to make it go to full blown civil war, but it could just as easily mean his butt is out of office before he’s gets far enough to do damage.

We also have a great deal of our military overseas. The only thing here is the Air Force. Unless he wants to start dropping JDAMS it’s going to be tough if the states withhold their national guard contingents. Even with troops, even the Marines, you aren’t talking about a few ragheads and a couple of AK’s against 500 Marines. More like 20,000 to 500, many of those ex-military. They’d be coming from all sides, you’d have to carpet bomb multi square miles against that kind of threat. That will just piss off Americans even more. Our military would be slaughtered.

Without full blown national chaos doing something like that would more than likely backfire on Obama. His martial law fantasies wouldn’t play out like he thinks.