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To: Tolsti2

Yes, there are those who do choose not to do ‘evil. Equally, as I said, there are moslems who leave Islam (of their own volition/choice), but if found out will be punished, because they are viewed as Apostates in Islam & by their orthodox counterparts.

Exactly, in Islam, itself, the concept of Free Will so far as core Islamic tenets & laws are concerned, does not exist.

No doubt there are “Stupid moslems”. I also wonder how much of so-called ‘stupidity’ can be attributed to the fact that these ‘stupid moslems’ have been conditioned (brainwashed) thru formal/informal education since childhood. By education, I mean at home by their parents, at Islamic schools, thru exposure to certain media, at mosques, as well as by various Islamic clerics.

It is interesting, the other day I was having a conversation on FR about the concept of “good vs evil” & how this concept is interpreted & taught differently in Islam.

In summary, The moslems see ‘good’ as those who adhere to moslem beliefs, Allah, Allah’s ‘final’ prophet as seen by them being Mohammad & the Koran. They see evil as those who doubt & deny the mentioned beliefs, and are told they’ll be punished for it in a physical location (hell) or rewarded for obedience (heaven/paradise) in afterlife.

If you get the time, watch the interview (link in #35). I found it informative, especially from the perspective of the woman was interviewed (Ayaan Hirsi Ali). She is born a moslem, tho is now an ex-moslem.


41 posted on 02/24/2011 5:24:09 PM PST by odds
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To: odds

I don’t buy the patty hearse brainwashed defense evil. A person IS their idealogy. If it’s a murderous cult then they take all the blame as an individual for being a member.


42 posted on 02/24/2011 5:30:10 PM PST by Tolsti2
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