[okie01]

In Australia, the Liberal Party is the main conservative party - the party was named for an older ideal of liberalism.

For further context, Barry Goldwater -- the patron saint of the conservative movement in the USA -- always referred to himself as "an 18th century liberal".

The Founding Fathers epitomized the liberealism of their day.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Thanks for the education. I understand your points about the Founding Fathers.

Liberalism in the classic sense has been co-opted twisted and distorted by what I'll call leftists.