[BRK]

I thinks the facts on Global Warming are that nearly all scientists that are given grants to prove global warming is real agree that global warming is real. Global Warming is real all right, real lucrative that is!

[jazusamo]

Global Warming is real all right, real lucrative that is!

Exactly...With Holdren and his ilk it's all about grants.

[kroll]

that are given grants to prove global warming is real agree that global warming is real.

This is a little more complicated than that.....You would be surprised that only a fraction of scientists who study climate, oceans and the atmosphere actually Study or necessarily care about climate change. Most of them are doing basic climate science which would be useful for various reasons in the future....Many modelers are largely unconcerned about CO2 and don't solve cases with CO2 in it....They are more interested in accounting for solar forcing, the ocean-atmosphere interaction and so on....incredibly difficult problems on their own without some CO2 nonsense...But in applying for grants, it is convenient to make some extraneous comments about trying to study impact climate change to have a better chance of getting the grant. But they are still doing good science. But this is Always the case when basic science is concerned, you often have to play to choir to get funds to do good research in basic science...