Special Agent to Obama supporters:
"I am looking for the Imposter’s REAL birth certificate."
Posted on 02/17/2011 8:31:53 PM PST by dalight
Drudge has linked this story from World Net Daily that notes the odd decision by the Supreme Court to hold a new “conference” on Obama’s eligibility to hold the presidency.
Let’s research WHY the court could be compelled to do this.
It MUST have something to do with the fact that Obama has no birth certificate on file in the Hawaiian Hall of Records with the name “Barack Hussein Obama” on it — since his original Hawaiian birth certificate with that name was sealed in the 1970s when he was adopted in Indonesia by Lolo Soetoro, his stepfather. At the time of adoption, a child’s original birth certificate is sealed away and replaced in the Hall of Records by a new birth certificate that bears the adopted parents’ names and the child’s new name, if a new name is given.
This is what happened to Obama, when he was renamed “Soetobakh” by his mother and stepfather at the time of adoption.
(Excerpt) Read more at hillbuzz.org ...
“Soetobakh ?”
That’s a new one I haven’t seen before!
Though this is certainly true, it only a part of the current kerfuffle. Obama and company hide this and they concentrate on the Birth Certificate because they can haul out this piece of crap and dare folks to make a beef about it which folks apparently have decided will fall somewhere in the gray area when they consider the wrong name issue by itself. The problem is that it is likely the SOB may not even be a Citizen in spite of the ease it would have been to re-establish it. Or perhaps he is, but under his legal name, not BHO.
Worse, he very likely took advantage of foreign tuition breaks when he went to college, hence, the hiding of these records. It is a house of cards.
“What a bunch of cowards we have in our corrupt biased media and yet this guy and Hannity say they’re looking out for us.
Yea right”
Americans have been dumbed down to moron level.
That is why I left.
If Americans do not wake up, there will be no America by 2012.
This is another question that just aches. Everything seems to be consistent with the proposed explanation that Obama's original Hawaii Birth Certificate was a result of a affidavit filed by his grandparents.
Me neither. Haven’t of that name before. We truly are screwed that this POSUS has so many different aliases.
The funny thing is that if you read the State Department's own manual on citizenship they specifically separate the definition of Natural Born citizen from Naturalized and Birthright Citizenship.
What I wasn’t aware of that DuJan points out in his post on Hillbuzz is that at least 10 states, with more on the horizon, are underway to enacting a legislative requirement to provide a Certificate of Live Birth for name access to that’s state’s ballot. I had no idea it was 10 or more. I’d read the White House was extremely concerned about this. They planned on having only 1 or 2 states enact this requirement and then label them as racist states. But when 10 or more plan on it, then the “racist” brush won’t paint a swath that wide and resonate.
Anyone know which states are thinking of doing this, and are any of them close enough to getting it done?
Special Agent to Obama supporters:
"I am looking for the Imposter’s REAL birth certificate."
You could be right. I thought a President can not have ever held citizenship in another country. Maybe that is what they are hiding, Indonesian passport?
“Soetobakh”...for some reason when I say that name in my head I hear Jabba the Hutt’s voice saying it
Ultimately, folks smell a rat, and even if this is nothing, the possibility exists that someone else would play this game so its worth dealing with. Frankly, the last few election cycles saw several candidates who were ineligible on the ballot in several states. The system has relied on the national parties guaranteeing the person's eligibility and this has come into question, so the only rational response is to do what states do for everyone else, say "Show me."
“if you read the State Department’s own manual on citizenship they specifically separate the definition of Natural Born citizen from Naturalized and Birthright Citizenship.”
Really? Do you have a copy? Or is it online?
I know that there are three types of statutory citizenship: native born (born in the U.S. to legal residents); citizenship-by-statute (born overseas to one or two U.S. citizen parents); and naturalization (foreign-born but naturalized as citizen).
Natural Born Citizen only appears in the U.S.Constitution as an eligibility requirement for the Presidency. It is NOT now, nor has it ever been, a type of citizenship.
You are dead on. In order to be a natural born citizen, one has to be the child of two US citizens. The democrat party tried to disqualify John McCain because he was born in the Panama Canal zone trying to make the case that he was born outside of the US. His father was a US Navy officer and his mother was born in the US. But when it comes to obama, no such scrutiny was applied to him. IF he is actually Barak Hussein Obama, then he is not qualified because according to British law, his father was a British citizen making Barak jr. NOT eligible to be the president. Add to that his family members proudly claiming that he was born in kenya and ALL his life records are sealed leads to the suspicion that he is not legally qualified.
But the democrats have proven many times that laws are for the little people and they don’t have to follow the law.
Silly Americans, laws are for kids. We are democrats and we can do damn well what we please. And no one is going to stand up to us because if they do, we will unleash our base to riot and destroy your cities if you question the kenyan illegal president.
The dims went all in with this guy and are not about to back down in their defense of him. He was and is their ticket to tyranny. And don’t count on anyone in the media to pursue this.
Old whatsisname is no longer a member of the Illinois Bar for reasons which are sealed. He also falsely denied drug use, and any traffic violations. Typically, a wayward attorney might be offered a chance to "voluntarily" withdraw from the bar, and have all records sealed, rather than involve the parties in a possibly acrimonious proceeding. Old whatsisname's Bar Files are sealed.
In re the sealed original birth certificate: That is exactly what is done in the case of adoption by a step parent. The question is, was the Soetoro etc. moniker ever LEGALLY CHANGED BACK?
IMHO, it is possible that DuJan is not quite on target in one regard. That is, it is entirely possible that Barry was born elsewhere and Grandma Dunham just "phoned it in," as was very often the case in Hawaii in that period. As a result, neither DuJan, nor I, nor any Freeper can be sure either way! Smells fishy. Might be chicken?
I have always had the sneaking suspicion that the COLB/BC deal, while important and certainly germane, was a monstrous sleight-of-hand; a misdirection; away from the real issue of Barack Senior's citizenship. It has certainly helped Team Obama confuse the issue by conflating "Native" Citizenship, which is barely possible for him, with "Natural Born Citizenship," which on the face of it is impossible for him. In that regard, Team Obama has surely gotten its legal dollar's worth!
Gee, I wonder if I could get a Judge to look at this in court. What do you think?
When BHO was adopted, the US did not allow parents to renounce the citizenship of minor children.
What Indonesia allowed or did not allow has nothing to do with it.
Very interesting questions and there are many more. But, the one that stands above all: Why has Barry spent over $2 million in lawyer's fees to lockup all his most basic of records from scrutiny? Where there's this much smoke, there's a heck of a fire.
How many names does this guy have for cryin’ out loud.
“The reason Obama has spent so much time and money hiding his original birth certificate is because his adoption in the 1970s, and the bizarre, Klingon-sounding name “Soetobakh” are just so strange and difficult to explain to Americans.”
RIGHT! And Barack Hussein Obama sounds great to American ears. Bull!!
I didn’t know that. Thanks for pointing that out. Do you have a reference or citation?
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