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Scott rejects high-speed rail project
florida independent ^ | 2/15/11

Posted on 02/16/2011 7:19:19 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

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To: muawiyah

And trees.


21 posted on 02/16/2011 7:47:18 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: knarf

My last trip to Tampa the street car driver was telling me that Disney has bought up most of Tampa near the tracks and were building hotel and condo’s and the high speed rail would go from Tampa to Disney World and pretty much only help Disney.

Their lobbyist’s will be working to get it through.


22 posted on 02/16/2011 7:48:36 AM PST by artificial intelligence (Your data will be processed by me for future input. Thank you.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

good thing too , also Scott is closing down over 50 parks like Ft Mose which is near me and no one ever goes to.
Every time we pass it there is no one there, actually never seen anyone except workers.

Why they built the building a few years ago is beyond me, that was a complete waste of money.
I am opposed to him closing down Oulestee as that park draws tens of thousands of people, it is the biggest civil war area in FL and where they have a massive reenactment.
Plus it takes less people to look at that area then it does Ft Mose


23 posted on 02/16/2011 7:50:36 AM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: artificial intelligence
OK, I know jit about the distance.

What're we talkin' ... a few miles?

10?

more?

(I'm not condoning the damned thing ... just tryin' to put it in perspective.)

24 posted on 02/16/2011 7:52:39 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: knarf

Dumbest idea ever..like what are you going to do in Orlando without a car...?


25 posted on 02/16/2011 7:53:44 AM PST by ken5050 (Admin Moderators rule!!!!)
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To: knarf

it’;s a dumb stupid idea to stop this rail line because of cost vs whatever???

is that what you meant?

Think it’s great idea as most of us do not want it and it would be a waste of money.


26 posted on 02/16/2011 7:54:04 AM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: knarf

It 85 miles by road right now.


27 posted on 02/16/2011 7:54:21 AM PST by artificial intelligence (Your data will be processed by me for future input. Thank you.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It’s like I said on another thread. Here in Houston it cost over 2 billion to install a 17 mile long light rail that runs in a straight line, has an average speed of 7 miles per hour and has over 20 stops - and this was in 2003 dollars. So the amount the government is proposing would just barely scratch the surface for a high speed line that’s a 150 miles long or so.


28 posted on 02/16/2011 7:55:08 AM PST by 12 Year Lurker
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To: Le Chien Rouge
That sound you hear is Willie Green’s bong hitting the wall.

LOL! I miss 'ol Willie sometimes. Usually, I miss him the most when articles like this are posted......

29 posted on 02/16/2011 7:57:41 AM PST by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is a good call. The Orlando to Tampa route was simply the bargaining chip that was given to then Gov. Crist (who is from, and presumably back in, the Tampa area). Those who know anything about the economics of HSR know that the distances at which the technology pays off are somewhere in the 250- 350 mile range. And that assumes that you have population density and origin-destination demand sufficient to reach an operational level that is economical (minimum or no fare box subsidies). Miami to Orlando? That could be a contender. Not in the present economic condition, but maybe in the future. But Orlando to Tampa, that was just a bone thrown by the Obama Administration to then Gov. Crist.


30 posted on 02/16/2011 8:03:23 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: manc
Using "cost vs .. " for an argument is my point.

I just think pols should be tellin' zero to pound sand ... in one syllable words.

He tells US ... !

31 posted on 02/16/2011 8:03:30 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: ken5050

Good for Governor Scott! File high-speed rail with “free healthcare” a fiscal Black Hole! The best way to know what people DON’T want... is if government gives “it” a subsidy (whatever “it” is). Most “subsidy” money circulates back to the politicians that granted it. The $2.4 billion “stimulus” grant will cost the taxpayers of Florida at least thrice that! Trust me, I’ve worked in government!


32 posted on 02/16/2011 8:08:34 AM PST by FiddlePig (truth is hard... lies are easy - http://redneckoblogger.blogspot.com)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Great news that Gov Scott has killed the Tampa—Orlando rail.

For those rail buffs who are in mourning, let me suggest they go to New Mexico and ride Gov Richardson’s boondoogle train from Albuquerque to Santa Fe. Richardson’s train is losing something like $25 million per year so they desperately need riders!@!!!


33 posted on 02/16/2011 8:08:59 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: SoFloFreeper

Thank goodness. Just as technology is making business travel less and less necessary, Leftists are pushing for a realization of 1960’s tech dreams.


34 posted on 02/16/2011 8:18:28 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: artificial intelligence

The only folks who benefit is Disney. They will claim a gazzillion jobs created. Yes jobs, but minimum paying jobs in DISNEY Parks. puhleezeee


35 posted on 02/16/2011 8:29:06 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced. Winners do not compromise!)
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To: Iron Munro
"Let the riders pay the full cost of their own transportation."

To make the policy complete, interstate highway funding and subsidies to airports and air trafic control should also be included in a plan like the one you suggest.
36 posted on 02/16/2011 8:35:36 AM PST by indthkr
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To: mission9

I should probably know this, but what’s DCA stand for?


37 posted on 02/16/2011 8:45:08 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (Lord Jesus, direct my mind, possess my heart, transform my life)
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To: indthkr
To make the policy complete, interstate highway funding and subsidies to airports and air trafic control should also be included in a plan like the one you suggest.

Yes, good policies, one and all.
Get Amtrak off our backs too.

As part of their social engineering the federal government has become addicted to policies that disguise the real costs of avtivities.

I support the end to all subsidies, price supports, backdoor funding and tax policies designed to pick winners and losers in the marketplace.

People modify their behaviour based on the perceived direct cost to them of a product or activity. As an example, look what the Obama administration is doing to push sales and use of electric and hybrid autos.


38 posted on 02/16/2011 8:47:53 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: SoFloFreeper

In spite of all the naysayers, the governor is earning his votes.


39 posted on 02/16/2011 8:52:06 AM PST by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: SoFloFreeper
...Scott’s decision means the federal government will likely give the money earmarked for the project to another state...

Hey, I gotta idea...how 'bout not spending it anywhere! Pay off the debt.

40 posted on 02/16/2011 9:30:32 AM PST by FReepaholic (WTF?)
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