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To: stephenjohnbanker; Liz; ken5050; All
The NYTimes interview with Madoff seems to have gone down like a lead balloon. The fallout seems to confirm conclusions in my post:

From Madoff’s Credibility Ends When His Mouth Moves: Ann Woolner - BL, by Ann Woolner, 2011 February 17

Good comments in the article on what Madoff didn't say, and didn't offer any proof or specifics (particularly referring to JPMorgan and other non-FOB parties accused by him and Picard of being "complicit in one form or another" in his crimes or "should have known" about them). Picard would have to rely on Madoff's testimony to prove to the courts that institutions knew about the specific crimes he accuses them of, rather than vague statements that they "should have known" or "had to know."

Conclusion: there is no evidence of JPMorgan's knowledge or involvement in Madoff's scheme in 115-page lawsuit that was filed by Picard to bankruptcy court - wrong legal venue, at that.

And now, at last, tables are being turned on Bernie's new partner - Irving Picard - in their latest efforts to make everyone happy by deflecting the blame, protection of FOBs and "deep pockets" legal extortion schemes. He is getting deserved backlash from real victims for quietly shielding FOBs (Friends of Bernie) by favorable settlement terms and thus keeping the damaging info from criminal prosecutors:

From Madoff victims file to stop $220M deal - NYP, by Chuck Bennett,

The irony here is delicious - Picard is now on the hot seat and his spokesman called Chartma's motion "without merit".

Here is an interesting mini-Madoff episode that shows why Madoff's "consistent" or "stable" results were so effective as a sales pitch to certain demographic (and why he was really surprised to find that there were people doubting his returns and his scheme):

From Fugitive Kim used Bernie M.O. - NYP, by Kaja Whitehouse, 2011 February 18

In the aftermath of Madoff confession "stable returns" became a red flag for fraud watchers. 35-year old Kim, immediately changed his MO and "returns" - in January, 2009 Kim replaced the 0.14 number with returns that were still unusually consistent, but slightly varied and not identical from month to month.

Another "affinity" or "identity" mini-Madoff Ponzi schemer (this one Amish, of all people) seems to have gotten little more than a slap on the wrist:

From 77-year-old Amish financial adviser charged in Ponzi scheme - NYP, 2011 February 17

And another "sleeper" Madoff-like (too big and too different to call it mini-Madoff) Ponzi soap opera just became even more interesting:

Stanford Sues U.S. Prosecutors, SEC and FBI Agents - BL, by Andrew M. Harris and Laurel Brubaker Calkins, 2011 February 17

SEC spokesman Kevin Callahan and DoJ spokeswoman Laura Sweeney declined to comment, FBI Houston's office PR person Shauna Dunlap has yet to return the call.

Stanford's 39-page lawsuit doesn't sue the agencies directly, but names 12 persons working for the SEC, FBI and the DoJ as defendants. Complaint includes attorney Stephen Korotash who leads the SEC’s civil suit and criminal case prosecutors Gregg Costa and Paul Pelletier.

Stanford accuses individuals of "abusive law enforcement", denying him the "constitutional rights," right of legal defense, in part by intimidation and freezing "his" accounts, and seeks $7.2 billion in damages.

38 posted on 02/19/2011 4:52:36 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy; ken5050

Seems to me the whole purpose of the Madoff exercise was to get the Wilpons off the hook-—to clear the Wilpons of any wrongdoing.

Not that I believe it.

And even if they did NOT know-—the Wilpons still have to give back any monies they made which are considered ill-gotten gains....said to be some $300 million.

By law, one cannot benefit from financial fraud.


39 posted on 02/19/2011 5:25:55 AM PST by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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