Posted on 02/15/2011 11:11:02 AM PST by broken_arrow1
Rand Paul is full of crap on this. Just like Daddy
Well said sir
Didn't Conservatives & George Bush want the Patriot Act to catch muslim terrorist and the Dems fought us on it.
Now, we're the bad guys for renewing it under Obamah?
I meant well said for Rand that is
Carbon copy of his pappy.
Wow. Nice bomb throwing.
I noticed you did not rebutt a single statement from this letter.
Not one mention from you about what is or is not constitutional about the Patriot Act. Just name calling.
Thanks for helping America there buddy.
I wish Rand was running for President. He understands how The Patriot Act and the Federal Reserve are more tyranny over the citizens. Rand gets it.
No, he is absolutely right. The “Patriot Act” is an abomination. We have all the law we need to deal with the Mohammedans without it; the Act is a violation of the 4th Amendment.
Congress doesn’t give “mom and apple pie” names to bills that can stand serious scrutiny. The Patriot Act is no more about patriotism than the “Bank Secrecy Act” is about bank secrecy.
I guess that support for this legislation is an area where you and Palin agree ;-)
I still haven’t heard many actual complaints of Americans’ rights being taken away by the Patriot Act even though DU still rails against it almost every day.
Did you just now discover the Patriot Act, ace? It has been discussed ad naseum here back when it was first passed, then modified and passed again.
“Rand Paul is full of crap on this. Just like Daddy”
Your pea brain isn’t able to refute one line of the arguments above. Have you ever read a single thing that the founding fathers wrote?
Nonsense.
My pea brain looks the size of a watermelon compared to the Paultards.
Maybe this quote explains why there aren't many complaints so far. It's hard to complain if you don't know that your records were accessed.
"These secret demand letters, which allow the government to obtain financial records and other sensitive information held by Internet Service Providers, banks, credit companies, and telephone carriers-all without appropriate judicial oversight-also impose a gag order on recipients."
The real problem and central question in this country is:
Are we a country of laws (the Constitution) or men?
I guess you don’t mind that men rule as long as it’s the guys you like?
The Patriot Act, Federal Reserve, czars etc. are grossly illegal.
And yes, you are still wrong.
Getting to be a pattern for you...
What a stunning response to FTP’s posting! Surely now you have won the debate with your irrefutable logic... /sarc
Odd that Rand Paul has decide to make his stand on this issue siding with the Dims against national security rather than on criminal law aimed at ordinary criminals. I think most of people want the government to have as much power in the area of national security investigations as they do in the areas of drugs and organized crime.
Now if Rand Paul were to make his stand on such legal tools concerning organized crime and drugs, I would find it more reasonable. But that Paul wants to go back to the time with national security agencies have fewer tools than law enforcement in the organized crime and drug areas is disconcerting to me.
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