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To: EternalVigilance
Rights are not granted by governments. Rights are protected by government (theoretically)

According to the founding documents, the federal government has or should have limited authority.

If you have a beef with abortion, take it up with your city, county, or state governments.

63 posted on 02/14/2011 4:49:53 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper
So, do you believe the same Gerald R. Ford-spawned crapola concerning any other unalienable right?

If not, what makes the supreme right, the right to live, so special in your view, that it's alienable if a state feels like alienating it?

And, how do you get around the clear, imperative demand of the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments?

"No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law."

"No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


64 posted on 02/14/2011 5:05:21 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The steering wheel is irrelevent once you've gone off the cliff.)
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To: elkfersupper
Rights are not granted by governments.

Then why do you think governments can take them away?

And why do you think any government can eschew its primary sworn duty, which is to protect the unalienable rights of the people?

65 posted on 02/14/2011 5:07:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The steering wheel is irrelevent once you've gone off the cliff.)
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To: elkfersupper; EternalVigilance; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; ...
Rights are not granted by governments. Rights are protected by government

Well then, do you believe:

A. That life IS NOT a right (even though both the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence clearly indicate that it is).
or
B. That federal, state and local governments have the authority to take away rights (because that is what giving governments that authority to legalize abortion amounts to.

If you have a beef with abortion, take it up with your city, county, or state governments.

I take you DO NOT "have a beef with abortion" and that you are too ignorant to understand that abortion became a federal matter on January 23, 1973.

68 posted on 02/15/2011 2:17:22 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: elkfersupper; wagglebee; xzins; EternalVigilance; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; ...
Rights are not granted by governments. Rights are protected by government (theoretically)

If "rights" are not granted by the government, then where in the hell did the "right" to have an abortion come from? Is that an inalienable right? Hell, the Hippocratic Oath (5th Century BC) prohibits doctors from performing abortions and historically nearly every government on the planet until the last 50 years considered Abortion to be a serious crime.

If you have a beef with abortion, take it up with your city, county, or state governments.

WRONG! If you support abortion, then you are in violation of the very principle you espoused (i.e., that government exist to protect rights and not create them).

The right to life is unalienable. It does not come from Government, but from God.

Who in the hell are you to claim that anyone has the right to take the innocent life of another? On what grounds do you claim that abortion should be legal in any community or any state? Just where in the Hell (and I do mean HELL) did the "right" to abortion come from?

70 posted on 02/15/2011 3:25:59 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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