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Is a San Francisco politician right for not saying the Pledge of Allegiance?
Examiner ^ | 01/27/11 | Ed Walsh

Posted on 02/12/2011 10:07:29 AM PST by freespirited

Jane Kim is a newly elected member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. She represents District 6 which includes the low-income Tenderloin District as well as the upscale condos in the city’s trendy South of Market.

Kim has refused to join in with the other supervisors to recite the Pledge of Allegiance during meetings.

She says she has a problem with the words "with liberty and justice for all." (video)

Kim told the San Francisco Examiner: “I don’t believe we are a nation with liberty and justice for all — yet. So a lot of my work is motivated by wanting to be a part of achieving that ideal.”

Kim claims she is a loyal American despite her refusal to say the Pledge of Allegiance.

Kim told the Examiner, “I think I am very loyal the country. I’ve expressed my patriotism through my years of doing organizing work, being a civil-rights lawyer and being a public servant now.”

Board of Supervisors President David Chiu told ABC-7 News that he "absolutely supports Supervisor Kim's perspective…. I know her as someone who is absolutely patriotic, who loves her country," Chiu said.

District 8 Supervisor Scott Wiener told the San Francisco Examiner that he is OK with Kim’s silence but he will continue to recite the pledge himself, “To me, it’s a way about reminding myself about our country and the liberties and democracy that we enjoy. But there are many, many ways of reminding ourselves of why we love our country.”

Is it against the Board’s rules for Kim not to say the pledge?

The Examiner notes that the rules say: “The President shall lead the Board and the audience in the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.”

But the paper reports that there is no rule that would require anyone to say it It is considered free one’s free speech rights to not say it, according to the Examiner.

SFist writer Jay Barmann took this take on the controversy: "Reinforcing the public's perception of the Board of Supervisors as a group of whiny liberal high school kids who go to battle, and occasionally try to one-up each other with how forward-thinking and/or blasphemous they can be, newly elected District 6 rep Jane Kim has taken a stand against reciting the Pledge of Allegiance that is sure to garner her some nice, negative national press attention. Way to fill Daly's shoes..."

Barmann was referring to the former District 6 supervisor Chris Daly, who was known for his far-left views. Daly said the Pledge of Allegiance at board meetings but he omitted the words "under God."


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KEYWORDS: janekim; moonbat; pledgeofallegience; sanfrancisco
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To: freespirited
She says she has a problem with the words "with liberty and justice for all."

I agree, but it's not the peon who is denied liberty, it's the rulers who are exempt from justice.

21 posted on 02/12/2011 2:16:10 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: ex-snook

What/who is the first allegiance of unions?


22 posted on 02/12/2011 2:26:43 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: freespirited

What I can’t understand is why the other snoozervisors recite the Pledge.


23 posted on 02/12/2011 2:27:12 PM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: freedomfiter2

I should have included you in my earlier post.

What/who is the first allegiance of unions?


24 posted on 02/12/2011 2:28:14 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Balding_Eagle
"What/who is the first allegiance of unions?"

Probably their bosses now. However I do remember the union dockworkers in NY would not service Communist ships.

25 posted on 02/13/2011 12:26:18 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: ex-snook

So are you giving them a pass?

If corporations ( whose first allegiance, by design, is to their owners) shouldn’t allowed to contribute to political causes, what about Unions, whose first allegiance to their bosses, or (ideally) their members?


26 posted on 02/13/2011 12:32:38 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Balding_Eagle

No pass to any organization. Only citizens who can vote should be allowed to contribute to candidates. Any entity that can’t vote, can’t contribute. Putting money before country does not cut it for an American citizen.


27 posted on 02/13/2011 12:49:03 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: ex-snook

OK, I’m on board with you.


28 posted on 02/13/2011 12:58:32 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Balding_Eagle

We want the best for America. Regards,


29 posted on 02/13/2011 1:14:02 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: freespirited

This means more today than it did then look how young this man is and it will show you how many years ago it was made. My Hero.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHAFmFsb9XM


30 posted on 02/13/2011 1:23:43 PM PST by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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