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To: David
Just making sure I understand you correctly. You said:

The prevailing view is that the adoption of the born in the USA citizenship rule is viewed as conveying all of the rights privileges and immunities of citizenship including but not limited to natural born rights to any person who is born here.

Are you saying that even if a child is adopted by a foreigner and obtains (however it is obtained) citizenship of the adopted parent, he is still a NBC? I really find that hard to swallow, if that is what you said (and I could be wrong). No court has ever determined this, anyway.

87 posted on 02/13/2011 12:10:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; LucyT
Are you saying that even if a child is adopted by a foreigner and obtains (however it is obtained) citizenship of the adopted parent, he is still a NBC? I really find that hard to swallow, if that is what you said (and I could be wrong). No court has ever determined this, anyway.

A direct answer is no. Just where do you think I sand that?

What I have said consistently, is that it is the widespread and generally accepted view of the Constitutional Law Bar as well as the scholarly Law review documents on the topic, that any person who is born in the geographical territory of the several states is a citizen and obtains all of the rights of citizenship including but not limited to natural born citizenship for purposes of Article II of the Constitution.

To be distinguished from a person who becomes a citizen at birth in a foreign country who is thereby subject to the sovereignty of that country at birth.

Under the Constitution as modified by the 14th Amendment, the issue is place of birth. If a person is born in the USA, he is a natural born citizen; if he his not born in the USA, he is not.

90 posted on 02/13/2011 1:08:07 PM PST by David (...)
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