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Vilsack worry? Nah...What a scam.
1 posted on 02/11/2011 9:43:07 AM PST by jazusamo
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“WHAT... ME WORRY”?
Alfred E. Newman

LLS


2 posted on 02/11/2011 9:46:06 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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I agree it is a huge scam on all Americans except etanol producers, corn farmers and speculators. But that unfortunately is the way the US system now works, for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many.


3 posted on 02/11/2011 9:48:52 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest non-corrupt government for the people, not just government for corporatists)
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corn is presently around $7.00 and beans around $14.00.

expected to go to $9 and $19 later this year.

Farm ground just sold near here for over $8000/acre.

We’ve had several bumper crops in the past few years. I reckon all that global warming CO2 could be good for crop production.

And the farmers are spending money like crazy! New buildings, semis, equipment, pick-ups. You couldn’t even find any drain tile for sale a couple months ago, cause the producers couldn’t keep up with demand.

Point is...mosts farms would do just fine without that extra help from Uncle Sugar.


4 posted on 02/11/2011 9:56:04 AM PST by digger48
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I just found it bit disingenuous that the article claims the American Corn Growers put the current price of corn at $5.40, when a simple click on their own website shows it to be a fuzz over $7.00 today.


6 posted on 02/11/2011 10:19:07 AM PST by digger48
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Of course he won’t because they are going to raise food prices skyhigh to recoup and continue their scam.


8 posted on 02/11/2011 10:32:08 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Those os us on Social Security don’t get any COL increases which include food or fuel or heating costs.

Therefore- our basic costs keep going up & we cannot meet those bills.

Yesterday, it was announced that the USA is 15% short on corn & this jackass is the sec of Ag & doesn’t have a clue.


9 posted on 02/11/2011 10:35:47 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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How about thinking beyond the ethanol subsidy Tom and start thinking how we can get more products out of corn and better use?


10 posted on 02/11/2011 10:37:41 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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And our politicians go along with this? Even though ethanol-laced gasoline gives us lower performance and higher pollution than regular gasoline? And puts the price of food up for everyone? What’s the end game here?


11 posted on 02/11/2011 10:37:43 AM PST by abclily
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OK - perhaps a bunch of us can perform an experiment:
Drive for one month using only ethanol adulterated gasoline.
Keep record of mileage and conditions (hwy, city, mix)
Do the same for one month with 100% gasoline.
Compare.
Report back. Report to your congress person as well.

Realizing that my own experiment has flaws - not all trips were equal, some highway weeks more than others, and there are variations due to things like distance from last oil change and tuning. I seemed to get near to four mpg better - or around 20% - with straight gas. Less of a difference on road trips, iirc.

Perhaps an aggregate of many people doing this can get a more accurate picture.

I read my data to mean that I must burn about 1.09g of gas plus about .11 gal of corn to drive the same distance. Yet I heard someone on the radio the other day say that corn was stretching our gasoline supply.

If I must use more gasoline to travel the same distance, how can it follow that I am putting less pollution in the air? I don’t think that there is a chemical reaction between ethanol and gasoline that makes it clean.
If I need more to go the same distance, am I not increasing demand, and prices, and dependence on foreign resources? How are any of these things good?
Then there is this business of 5% of the corn crop. This does not translate into making corn only 5% higher (if the figures are even correct as of this moment). Corn is food. Other crops not grown in favor of corn are food.

seriously - I would love to get a lot of data on this, or better yet, help some more statistically minded person do this.


14 posted on 02/11/2011 10:41:13 AM PST by Apogee
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“In December, President Obama signed a bill extending a credit of 45 cents for every gallon of pure ethanol blended into gasoline, as well as protective tariffs for 54 cents per gallon, costing nearly $1 total”

OK - so if my state and local taxes (in existence prior to this subsidy) on a gallon of gasoline are roughly 39¢, where is the money coming from?
Ahh - nevermind.


15 posted on 02/11/2011 10:44:44 AM PST by Apogee
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Ag Secretary ‘Not Worried’ About Effects of Ethanol Subsidy

Of course he's not worried. He's a damned mentally diseased liberal. He wouldn't know something bad for our country if it bit him in the butt.

19 posted on 02/11/2011 10:57:06 AM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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General comment: If you're interested in buying pure gasoline, click here.
20 posted on 02/11/2011 11:03:45 AM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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"Let them eat sorghum".


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

21 posted on 02/11/2011 11:04:40 AM PST by The Comedian ("Cry flummox and let loose the camels of war." - Truth29)
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