Posted on 02/10/2011 5:28:04 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
“If they were serious about conserving electricity, they’d jack the rates up sky high and let people figure out their own ways to conserve. In the north this might end up being natural gas lighting in your home.”
Oh, they will - SMART METERS. Basically, everyone gets to define a cut-off price, and when the price of power goes above a person’s cut-off, POOF!, there goes the refer and the AC. This brave new world is going to get very nasty, very soon.
yep.
“Of course, an eighth grader could have figured that out with a pencil and paper before they started building wind turbines”
Exactly.
I actually ran some numbers myself not too long ago. I assumed use of only the biggest windmills made right now, which are 800 foot (80 story) high monsters with 20,000 megawatt-hours/year capacity. I’m assuming that’s nominal output. Actual continuous output is typically figured at about 30% over the total time the windmill is run, so that would be about 7,000 megawatt-hours/year continuous output.
About 3 billion megawatt-hours were produced from carbon sources in the U.S. in 2007, so this means about 400,000 such monsters would be needed. They’d probably need to be spaced at least a mile apart, so say 400,000 square miles would be needed.
Only about 10% of the continental U.S. has good wind potential, meaning about 300,000 square miles of windy land. And, almost all of this is in mountainous or plains regions where few people live.
So right off the bat, not enough windy land. Plus we’d destroy 10% of the country as the deeply-penetrating low-frequency noise made when the blades pass by the tower on their down-swing is unbearable and can’t be blocked from penetrating houses, normal ear protection, etc.
And add in a local connection grid of 400,000 miles, a whole bunch of substations to step up voltage for long distance transmission, and a new national transmission grid to get the power to where people live, and there you have it!
Oh, and with a 400 ft diameter rotor and turning at only 12 rpm, the blade tips will be moving at about 165 mile/hr. (On one prominent wind power site, the idiots that run it said birds could easily dodge the blades that turn at only 12 rpm, so no worries about 400,000 windmills chopping up all the birds. I guess 12 rpm does seem kind of slow to a junior high school dropout.)
Oh, and of course we’re assuming no additional energy growth occurs either.
So, I really wonder where all the extra electricity will come from to power all those millions of new electric vehicles.
Well let’s see. 3 trillion miles were driven in 2007 in the U.S., and at .5 kilowatt-hours per mile, that’s another 1.5 billion megawatt-hours needed, i.e., another 200,000 80 story windmills, another 200,000 square miles, etc. (The problem is really worse than this as you can probably multiply all of the above by 1.5 to account for transmission losses from windmill to vehicle battery charger, and loses charging and discharging the vehicle batteries.
So there you have it. Very simple. So simple, you know the neo-Marxist bastards pushing wind power in this country know they are lying through their teeth about its feasibility.
They’re just trying to establish a new entitlement group dependent upon continuous taxpayer subsidies for “technologies” that can never be economical on their own. Green energy is just a vote buying scheme to buy the votes of those neo-Marxist “green” industries that will always be dependent on taxpayer handouts for survival. The only thing green about green energy is the color of the taxpayer money being used to buy votes with.
Two many hours at CSPAN looking at nothing but f*cking bad news for the most part....My grammar and spelling went from bad to worse. Do have a great and upcoming day Ernest.
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Nuclear outputs...... ZERO carbon.... right?
They are jacking up the prices while making impossible to build new power plants.
Thats BAD policy.
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Sounds like someone who knows that stuff in-depth could write a good dystopian novel.
“The latter is a Rube Goldberg machine designed to suck money out of wind.”
...that’s the best description of the current wind power scheme that I’ve ever seen.
What frustrates me is that we continue to argue based on the left’s false premises.
They claim to want “clean, renewable” power,
but in reality, they want reduced energy availability for the “serfs”.
I really pray that some day we can directly call them on their real agenda instead of letting them frame the argument in a manner that makes them look good, when their real agenda is so oppressive.
No one wants to believe that of their fellow citizens, I guess.
Good or bad policy is not relevant. If they really want to reduce electricity consumption, this is what they would do. But it won’t work as long as the welfare/food stamp crowd gets subsidies. Prices for electric utilities needs to be so high that people seek to generate their own electricity or do without.
Any effort short of this is a hoax. They really are not interested in reducing electricity. They are interested in control
Gosh, Holland’s not that far from here...
Thanks Ernest. :’)
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