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House Unexpectedly Defeats Patriot Act (Freedom & Liberty Restored?)
FoxNews.com ^ | February 08, 2011 | Chad Pergram

Posted on 02/09/2011 3:09:10 AM PST by broken_arrow1

It was the Congressional version of never count your chickens before they're hatched.

And when you do on Capitol Hill, you can sometimes lose a vote.

The newly-minted House Republican leadership botched a vote Tuesday night when it presumed it had the necessary support to reauthorize the Patriot Act, the anti-terrorism law imposed after September 11th.

The GOP expected little trouble with the bill. So Republicans brought the Patriot Act to the floor under a special procedure that requires a two-thirds vote for passage. It's a maneuver that's typically reserved for non-controversial legislation or bills that carry wide support.

Renewing that Patriot Act had certainly had wide support. 277 members voted in favor of the measure compared to just 148 nays.

But that's short of the two-thirds supermajority. Which means the House defeated the bill.

With 425 members voting, 284 yea votes were necessary to cross the two-thirds threshold for passage. 26 Republicans voted against renewing the law.

Democrats opposed to the Patriot Act were gleeful at the GOP miscalculation.

"Look at the ‘Don't Tread on Me flag.' It doesn't say don't tread on me, but it's okay if you spy," said Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), one of the most ardent opponents of the Patriot Act. "What the Republican leadership didn't count on is that they have some new members who are freshmen who are conservative, libertarian, who really do believe in civil liberties."

Eight Republicans whom the GOP regards as freshmen voted against the reauthorization. That's precisely the number of yea votes Republicans needed to pass the bill.

House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-MD) used to set the schedule when Democrats were in the majority and is familiar with floor meltdowns like the one Tuesday night.

But despite the misstep, Republicans blamed Democrats for the defeat.

(Excerpt) Read more at politics.blogs.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; congress; counterterrorism; gop; house; obama; patriotact; teaparty
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To: jd777

Islam teaches violence, hate and death. Nothing more and nothing less. It is man made and from Satan.

We don’t need to wait for Jesus’s return to know that, we have the Word.


181 posted on 02/10/2011 3:12:32 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I felt as you did once once - and I love this country and your god given right to express yourself - so please don't feel that I don't value your perspective.

However what if I told you one fact about islam that I found rather amazing. No, it's not about jesus although I wish you would just read about "jesus in Islam" Because you can't be muslim without belief in Jesus.

the fact is this: Mohammed declared that: in the last hour, the world shall be consumed by RIBA. RIBA is INTEREST on loans. He said the antichrist would use the weapon of RIba to take power. If you saw what just happened in Ireland - you will see there may have been some merit to this, but if the USA has a major DEBT crisis in the next 5 years that threatens our entire nation - and thus the world - perhaps you might think about to this man who lived 1400 years ago - and ask - How did he know?

May the One God protect and keep us until then.

peace, brother.

182 posted on 02/10/2011 5:39:50 AM PST by jd777
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To: broken_arrow1

“But despite the misstep, Republicans blamed Democrats for the defeat.”

Right out of the donk/lib playbook. Make a mistake,,,blame someone else.


183 posted on 02/10/2011 5:46:05 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: jd777

And in case anyone is reading this, allow me to explain my seeming digression- There are people , and they are amongst us, who hate islam - which in itself is no crime and they free to harbor it, but - they hate it so much they will destroy our constitution in order to to fight it.
And they call themselves conservatives

Well - guess what? - That’s not what our constitution abides!

In the name of THOMAS JEFFERSON - our first true conservative - I curse them and all their acts!

God bless those who voted to repeal the blasted Patriot Act!


Durka durka Mohammed Jihad!

Yeah Thomas Jefferson sent marines to kick some muzzy ass in tripoli....

WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM CONGRESS.

Problem is he didnt FINISH the job.

ah here’s an oldie but a goodie:

The Nazi Roots of Modern Radical Islam :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/816232/posts


184 posted on 02/10/2011 5:58:46 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: driftdiver

Hey DD....does the fact that the resident muzzy agrees with you give you any pause?

nah...


185 posted on 02/10/2011 6:05:16 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: Crim
Ok - Yeah, you're getting it now - the Nazi roots - NAZI roots - Yes a EUROPEAN influence - No? Where else do Nazi roots emerge from? And surprise, this was supported by the CIA after WWII -who harbored many "former' Nazis in various webs in Europe like Gehlen and Odessa. This doctrine, pernicious to its core, was thought of as useful to fight the Soviets. Nobody hated the Russians like the Germans - and we said "so do we. Let's use this evil to fight evil."

The Muslim Brotherhood was created in the 1920's and 1930's - and got big again in the 1950's - NOT IN TIME OF MOHAMMED - OK?

186 posted on 02/10/2011 6:14:24 AM PST by jd777
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To: jd777

You are so full of shit...if you had an enema..you could fit in a shoebox.

Behold the power of bacon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvh9FX17YJ8


187 posted on 02/10/2011 6:18:32 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: Crim
My dear CRIM et al. Please allow me to share a brief statement with you, and I do so in the name of Thomas Jefferson and his work "The Statute of Religious Freedom.: And it goes a little something like this:

Spirituality is a River.

That descended to Earth through Adam, may God grant him peace. It was refreshed by the great prophets, Abraham, Moses, Elisha and Jesus, may God grant them peace. It was strengthened by the great prophet Mohammed, may his name be blessed and may God grant him peace.

It is a river that knows no boundaries in space or time.

Sadly, but understandably, every race, creed, and culture claims this river as its own. But is always the same river. And this river arises in your heart.

------------------------

what do you think?

188 posted on 02/10/2011 6:26:08 AM PST by jd777
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To: Crim
Don't we have rules here against the use of profanity?

reading back from the record "You are so full of s--- "

I'm trying to discuss matters spiritual and legal and my opponents keep referring to feces - of porcine and other sources - Is your knowledge of the Law and God relegated solely to the domain of excrement? If it is, perhaps I might leave you to it.

Kind Regards, Your friend, JD

189 posted on 02/10/2011 6:38:24 AM PST by jd777
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To: Crim

You seem to have a problem separating things which are not associated.


190 posted on 02/10/2011 6:54:06 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: jd777

I don’t care what mohammed declared. He was a violent criminal who raped children and animals. He is burning in hell and has led millions along for that same ride.

Muslims lie about peace to ‘infidels’. Thats another teaching of their pig lover mohammed.

Islam is a religion of hate and death. Anything you say to the contrary is a lie.


191 posted on 02/10/2011 6:57:07 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: jd777

I think Jefferson kicked some muzzy ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War


192 posted on 02/10/2011 6:58:39 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: driftdiver

You seem to have a problem seeing the obvious.


193 posted on 02/10/2011 7:01:33 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: jd777

We also have rules about pimping Islam...

Perhaps we should ping an admin?


194 posted on 02/10/2011 7:03:06 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: Crim

Don’t make me pull out the troll spray again.


195 posted on 02/10/2011 7:03:12 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“Don’t make me pull out the troll spray again.”

Yeah but every time you pull it out...it has poo on it...


196 posted on 02/10/2011 7:12:46 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: Crim
Call an Admin - I didn't find it necessary to use profanity - I am not muslim - I believe in ONE GOD. And our beloved Jefferson fought the British and they threatened to "Hang him until nearly dead and then pull his entrails from his body and burn them in front of him" - Nice, huh?

If you recall with such clarity the Barrbary Pirates ( who were paid bribes by the British BTW)

- Why do you forget the BRITISH themselves?

They burned our white house to the ground in the war of 1812!!!

197 posted on 02/10/2011 7:42:51 AM PST by jd777
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To: Crim

Crim you are infantile.


198 posted on 02/10/2011 7:43:31 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“Crim you are infantile.”

LMAO...I’m not the one who pretends they have a can of “troll spray”...

And it’s just more name calling...that’s all you got left...

Oh...btw...the patriot act fail was more about tea party flexing muscles than with any actual problem with it...

http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/10/freshmen-to-gop-leadership-we-were-serious-about-read-the-bill/

Meaning...when it comes up again...it’s gonna pass...

You may now commence freaking out.


199 posted on 02/10/2011 7:49:15 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: jd777

Yes the British were one time enemies of the United States, for a relatively short time. Once those issues were resolved they have been our best and closest friend for a couple hundred years.

The muslim dogs have been enemies of freedom for 1400 years since their false prophet was rejected by the Christians and Jews.

All the skillful lies in the world will not change 1400 years of history. Speaking of history and the Barrbary Pirates who were paid bribes. They were muslims who captured, tortured, killed, raped, and pillaged anyone they could.


200 posted on 02/10/2011 7:51:45 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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