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To: bushpilot1

thats what i have argued for years, and it has come further to light with the passage of the sex tourism law which only applies to citizens and immigrated aliens. Illegals and non-immigrants are not subject to US jurisdiction outside the US thus not fully subject to jurisdiction under the 14th amendment. It also related to NBC.

ALL YOU LEGAL EAGLES Is there case law that says children of illegal aliens born in the US are citizens or is that just “policy”

If illegal aliens or lawfully immigrated aliens or non-immigrant aliens leave the US are they still subject to its laws and jurisdiction?

Can a US citizen be prosecuted for sex with a minor in a foreign country even if it is not against the law in that country? (yes)Can an immigrated, non-immigrated or illegal alien who leaves the US to such a country be prosecuted under US law for same?(immigrated can illegal & non-immigrant cant)

So does that mean that non-immigrated aliens and illegal aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US when abroad like US citizens and LAPR’s? So how can their children born in the US be citizens if their parents are not fully subject to US jurisdiction?


38 posted on 02/04/2011 1:51:44 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: rolling_stone

The subject to jurisdiction in the 14th Amendment comes from Vattel.

The Eastman testimony is here:

http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju23690.000/hju23690_0.HTM

Justice Scalia called Hamdi a “presumed citizen”.

aka obama is a presumed citizen.


39 posted on 02/04/2011 2:11:13 PM PST by bushpilot1
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40 posted on 02/04/2011 2:15:42 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: rolling_stone

There is a force in play to drive out..the descendants of the original citizens created after the ratification of the Constitution.

These descendants are the natural born citizens. They are the indigenous Americans.


45 posted on 02/04/2011 2:40:23 PM PST by bushpilot1
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