“I bring up Germanys naval build-up not as it relates to their fighting capacity in the war, but as it relates to the diplomatic climate of the prewar years.”
Yeah, Britain wasn’t happy with their naval build up, but the Germans were unwilling to suffer losses, and the British were never challenged. The reason Germany was unwilling to suffer losses is because their navy was far inferior to the Royal Navy.
“Yeah, and I can give an AK47 to a chimpanzee, but that doesnt mean he can win a duel against me and a slingshot (that is, if I knew how to use a slingshot). The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and if Germany was so successful against Russia it is because Russia isnt as powerful as it seemed. Manpower isnt everything.”
True, Russia had defects in both command and deployment. Edges where Germany had the advantage. However, their manpower was signficant enough that they were fighting on Austrian territory, well into 1917, prior to the collapse.
At the very worst, a stalemate. Tannenburg saved Germany from outright defeat, it wasn’t what knocked Russia out of the war.
“No, they didnt. They thought theyd win; thats why they started it.”
They were so frightened of the Entente that they put together the Schlieffen Plan. As an effort to try to compensate for the overwhleming disadvantage they would have in a two front war against France and Russia.
“Contrary to popular revisionist history, nations do not start wars because they are afraid.”
I don’t see how quoting the German high Commander in Moltke, and his belief that Germany would lose prior to the first world war, is ‘revisionist’.
“And it wouldnt have worked if France had continued to be what it recently was.”
Actually, it worked pretty darn well, until France allied with Russia to start off the worst century in the history of man. Pax Americana has lasted 65 years, which is 2/3rds what Metternich acheived. See where we are 35 years from now in 2040.
“Ask Germany and Germany.”
You mean, ask Russia and Germany? The aggressors in both wars. Russia wanted the Porte, which didn’t work out so well, did it? It’s taken nearly a century, but most of what she’s conquered has been given back.
“They were so frightened of the Entente that they put together the Schlieffen Plan.”
That makes sense. But it doesn’t explain why they’d put it into practice without being attacked. You’d only do that if you thought you could win.
“I dont see how quoting the German high Commander in Moltke, and his belief that Germany would lose prior to the first world war, is revisionist.”
I’m not familiar with his reservations. But he wasn’t the only hawk in Germany, and I’m sure others weren’t so wishy-washy. Either his hesitation was genuine but he felt caught up in events and outvoted by the war faction, and therefore pushed for what was thought to be the best way to win a two-front war. Or the Chief of Staff incited a war he knew couldn’t be won and therefor stands as one fo the stupidest and most heartless figures in world history.
“You mean, ask Russia and Germany?”
No, I don’t.