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To: Tublecane

Aggrandizement? Not so in the first world war. Yes there was a buildup, but the man who put it all together saw the cornerstone of Germany freedom was his alliance with Austria and Russia. The League of 3 Emperors.

The Kaiser screwed that all up by pushing the Russians to ally with France. Prior to that Germany and Britian had been allies against France.


15 posted on 02/04/2011 9:07:31 AM PST by BenKenobi (one of the worst mistakes anybody can make is to bet against Americans.")
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To: BenKenobi

“Yes there was a buildup”

Exactly. Everyone saw the “Germany problem” rising. France, obviously, but also Britain. Which is why they tried to stop them from building a navy. But they didn’t try very hard, and all along the line Germany smelled their weakness. And that is why they pounced, because they thought everyone was too weak to stop them. They should have been convinced otherwise.

“The Kaiser screwed that all up by pushing the Russians to ally with France. Prior to that Germany and Britian had been allies against France.”

Don’t drown in diplomatic tangles and geopolitical confusions. The bare facts are that Germany was seen as a lesser power, desperately wanted to alter that condition, and eventually went to war in order to control the European continent. The deals they made along the way are historical curiosities, but only serve to make the larger story fuzzy.

It would be as we explained the Soviet Empire of the Cold War period in terms of their shifting alliances with Poland and China, or whatever, ignoring completely their intent to dominate the globe. Germany’s cannot be understood outside of power politics, and were in no way amenable to normal diplomatic relations.


18 posted on 02/04/2011 9:22:24 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: BenKenobi

“It would be as we explained the Soviet Empire...” = It would be as IF we explained the Soviet Empire...


19 posted on 02/04/2011 9:25:34 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: BenKenobi

“but the man who put it all together saw the cornerstone of Germany freedom was his alliance with Austria and Russia. The League of 3 Emperors. The Kaiser screwed that all up by pushing the Russians to ally with France. Prior to that Germany and Britian had been allies against France.”

By the way, it’s impossible to understand WWI without knowing that there was a war faction in government. A faction that, like the Nazis, figured they could fight a successful general war in Europe. These are the types who drafted the “Schlieffen Plan.” They got their way in 1914.


21 posted on 02/04/2011 9:29:39 AM PST by Tublecane
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