In Search of the Moderate Muslim World

Frontpagemagazine ^ | February 4, 2011 | Arnold Ahlert

[snoringbear]

“Then what? Kill them all regardless. Nonsense.”

Ummm, perhaps not all. But, this conflict is more than a Islamic vs infidel struggle. This goes back to the Greeks vs Persians and was reincarnated as a religious war after Mohammad came on the scene. But, back to who needs killing; the only way these fundamentalist Islamists have ever been contained has been by the use of direct and brutal use of force. That's what it will take again to put them back in the bottle so to speak. These people only understand and respect one thing - and it ain't appeasement...

[LibLieSlayer]

Searching for moderate muslims is like searching for the Elmer Fudd... both are figments of a writers imagination.

LLS

[frog in a pot]

Much of what you say is true, but let me put a sharper point on the issue.

It seems possible to argue that the “good people” in Nazi Germany of whom you speak were also either naïve, indifferent, perhaps selfish, irresponsible, certainly intimidated and coerced, or otherwise frightened to the point of inaction. With hindsight, it is clear those good people had a responsibility at least to their families and neighbors to react – perhaps initially with stronger politicians - to Hitler’s early 1930’s political machinations, which were largely accomplished with deception, street thugs, voter intimidation, etc.

Perhaps that is the lesson for us today and the lesson for “peaceful moslems”.

Unfortunately, good people do not always timely react to infringements in meaningful ways, if at all. And bad people tend to increase their overstepping until resistance is ineffectual.

So we select politicians to safeguard our systems, and then sometimes fail to hold them accountable.

[LibLieSlayer]

If the CRUSADES had taken care of business... we would not have the problem we do today. After 13 centuries of fighting these satanists... you would think Western Civilization would learn.

LLS

[Grumplestiltskin]

“In Search of the Moderate Muslim World”

Keep lookin’. You ain’t gonna find it.

If Diogenes could talk, he’d say, “better get a long-burnin’ lamp!”

[Little Ray]

I guess my point was that there were “good” Germans, “normal” Germans, and Nazis.
And they all got bombed equally.
It should be the same for Islam. Once the issue becomes violent, its not our job to “sort them out.” We need to go into the “kill ‘em all” mode. Anything else is a waste of resources and creates unecessary risks for our service members. The only exception is for those who are trustworthy enough to fight our side (and the Afghan police and armed forces don’t seem to be in that group... I’d be happy to hear differently).
And, as anyone who has read Arithmetic on the Frontier knows, the enemy’s lives are cheap and “...we are dear.”