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Democrats react to McLachlan's 'birther' bill
The News-Times ^ | 02/02/2011 | Tony Webster

Posted on 02/03/2011 10:31:02 AM PST by FreeAtlanta

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To: American Constitutionalist

“Dereliction of duty” is *exactly* what it is. Thank you for putting it so succinctly!


41 posted on 02/03/2011 9:43:03 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

The system is broken, or worse, corrupt. A democrat controlled congress would never investigate a democrat president.


42 posted on 02/04/2011 12:34:30 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: Red Steel; rxsid
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43 posted on 02/04/2011 3:05:21 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Uncle Sham
I don't care what he says. It's what the Constitution says that counts.

And how has that worked out?

44 posted on 02/04/2011 6:56:12 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: JohnnyP

“The system is broken, or worse, corrupt. A democrat controlled congress would never investigate a democrat president.”

You’re right, but think how long it’s been this way. I remember as a kid watching the Watergate hearings. The Republicans were as intent on getting at the truth [or so it seemed] as the Dems. Not until much later did I realize what a one-way street that was. To this day, Republicans go after their own who either commit improprieties Or Appear To. When a Republican is falsely accused or even falsely convicted, they hang him/her out to dry.

The Dems NEVER do this. No matter how deep or obvious the corruption, they protect their own. They rarely investigate even egregious Dem wrong-doing, and as you said, they would NEVER investigate a corrupt Dem pres.

The worst of it is, the Republicans accept this double standard without a whimper. You’d almost think they agree with it. What will it take to get strong, fearless conservative leadership? No, I don’t think we have it with McConnell and Boehner. Maybe after 2012, we’ll have a chance to get the real deal.


45 posted on 02/04/2011 7:36:39 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Same thing when using a Geiger counter.

They know they elected a fraud and they fear the implications of exposure.

They know that this will haunt them for decades of their involvement and support of an illegal nominee to become President.

And if it takes decades it will, and they will be brought to trial.


46 posted on 02/04/2011 7:41:40 AM PST by Eye of Unk (What is YOUR snipe hunt?)
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To: fightinJAG

Obama voted for a law in 2005 that requires states to verify the validity of YOUR birth certificate from the issuing agency when you use it to apply for a drivers license or ID card. The hypocrite now known as President Obama won’t allow his home state to do the very thing for which you will have no control over. Hawaii already has a procedure for verifying birth certificates which could potentially be utilized under the Federal law for fulfilling this requirement on state’s presidential ballots. None of these politicians should have an objection to that. None.


47 posted on 02/04/2011 7:53:41 AM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

Born identity
By June Watanabe
Honolulu Star-Bulliten

POSTED: Saturday, June 06, 2009

Question: What is the state’s policy for issuing a “Certification of Live Birth” versus a “Certificate of Live Birth”? My first, second and fourth children received certificates, but my third and fifth children received certifications. Why the difference? The certificate contains more information, such as the name of hospital, certifier’s name and title; attendant’s name and title, etc. The certification has only the child’s name, date and time of birth, sex, city/island/county of birth, mother’s maiden name, mother’s race, father’s name and father’s race. Why doesn’t the state just issue certificates? When did it stop issuing certificates? Is it possible to obtain certificates for my third and fifth children?

Answer: No, you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues “certifications” of live births, and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

And, it’s only available in electronic form.

Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.

“At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.

Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.

“The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests,” Okubo said.

Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.”

“The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models,” she said.

Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”

She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state’s current certification of live birth “as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.”

The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year’s presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.

Asked about that document, Okubo said, “This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate.”

We found a discussion of “the truth about Obama’s birth certificate” on the Web site FactCheck.org—http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html.

The organization describes itself as “a nonpartisan, nonprofit ‘consumer advocate’ for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics.”

It says a “certification of live birth” is, in fact, a short-form official birth certificate. Information included in the document might differ from state to state.

http://archives.starbulletin.com/content/20090606_kokua_line


48 posted on 02/04/2011 9:15:33 AM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

give it up.


49 posted on 02/04/2011 9:53:06 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: JohnnyP

give it up.


No


50 posted on 02/04/2011 9:55:06 AM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Twit.


51 posted on 02/04/2011 12:25:20 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: JohnnyP

As long as Obama needs defending from Big Bad Freeper-conservatives, the Obots will never give up. He is their hero, and they are here to pimp him and his legitimacy at every turn.


52 posted on 02/04/2011 2:34:26 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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