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To: Deagle

Not sure if they are rioting in Cairo, but if our government shut down the Internet, shutdown cell phone service, banned certain political groups, abolished the electoral system and tortured political opponents, we would be in the streets rioting.

I’m not all that sure why the people of Cairo should not have the same desires for freedom as people in America.


11 posted on 01/31/2011 7:11:10 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
"I’m not all that sure why the people of Cairo should not have the same desires for freedom as people in America."

When was the last time that you saw an angry muslim crowd with Freedom on their minds? Have you seen even one sign that promotes Freedom or Liberty at any of the islamic protests in England? Therein lies your answer.

LLS

29 posted on 01/31/2011 7:26:34 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: trumandogz

Heh, yes, my point exactly...


57 posted on 01/31/2011 8:42:52 PM PST by Deagle (t)
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To: trumandogz
I’m not all that sure why the people of Cairo should not have the same desires for freedom as people in America.

First you need to define "freedom." One man may want to be free to speak, and another man may want to be free to kill him for his words. A total freedom is Somalia style anarchy.

If you look at Europe you will see that riots periodically occur in Sweden, France and other countries. Can we call the rioters "freedom fighters?" They, after all, are fighting to be free from Western laws, to be free to kill infidels. I guess not; their freedom is not our freedom.

If you look deeper into this requirement you will see that in order to build a free *democratic* society you need to have a critical mass of citizens who support its principles. Egypt has intelligentsia (ElBaradei and al-Zawahiri for example,) but, as reported, they don't make up a majority, or even a sizable part of the population. The Second Sturgeon's Law is quite specific. As it appears, MB is planning to ride into power on shoulders of perfectly good-intentioned, nice people who want to see democratic Egypt. MB probably calls them "useful idiots."

72 posted on 01/31/2011 9:58:20 PM PST by Greysard
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