Posted on 01/31/2011 3:16:23 PM PST by sunmars
... it is a narrow policy to suppose that this country or that is to be marked out as the eternal ally or the perpetual enemy of England. We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow.There is a good reason why people once spoke of perfidious Albion.
So I’m supposed to give Hillary Clinton the benefit of the doubt?
Look, I’m for exposing all the evil all the governments are doing.
Our press is not doing their job, so we have to rely on people like Assange and his organization to publish what they do have.
The UK is the subject of this very post, so the US is not the only one they target. These guys also released some information about an African potentate a couple years ago. It caused a big controversy and may have swung an election.
We need more WikiLeaks type sites.
I’ve been traveling to and living in Great Britain for over 30 years. I can assure you that the Brits - particularly the educated classes of England - do not like or understand America. In fact, most of them are completely unaware of our history. I just had a Cambridge friend ask me who “John Adams was?” He had stumbled upon the television series. And if you think the Conservative Party of Great Britain is anything like American conservative movement - you’ve gotta get out more.
In a perfect world, complete transparency in government would be a good thing.
But in a world where where WMD exist, and illiberal leaders rule illiberal people with designs on world conquest - secrets need to be kept.
One-way street transparency is a dangerous thing that has been and will continue to be used against us...
BTTT.
What I am saying is that because the information is selective (because they don't have access to all of it), the impression that is given is also selective. What has been uncovered may be true, but it ends up disguising other truths.
And this policy is different from that of every other nation in exactly what way?
I wasn't talking about THE Conservative Party. I said conservatives (small C) in both countries are opposed by "progressives" in both countries.
Absolutely, although I would add the caveat that shared language, history and a mutual dominant cultural inheritence do matter more than a little. Other than that, the relationship is only special because both sides strive to keep it that way. My only personal reading is that it has cooled considerably in the last couple of years, and I’m afraid the start was Obama’s assorted snubs (returning Churchill’s bust, handing crappy presents to Gordon Brown and the Queen, foisting Guantanamo prisoners on Bermuda without so much as a by your leave, and most tellingly, sucking up to the French). The Brits have retaliated with snubs of their own (no invite to M&O for the Royal wedding for example, and pointedly courting India as a new “special friend”). This is not a good trend. The UK may not be America’s closest ally, or its most important, but it is certainly the most important (and powerful) of its close allies.
Love how our corrupt biased media does not mention the fact bozo the clown and his admin knew about this all along.
I HATE OUR SO CALLED MEDIA
EXACTLY
Our corrupt media ignores how obama their messiah was told of this before hand and that he never did object to the release infact they did nothing.
Seems the so called media is trying to destroy our allies while making new allies like the muslim brotherhood .
Obama has now got google their hacks to set up social media in Egypt which then helps the muslim brotherhood , which begs the question what exactly did obama and his admin really get up to in that speech over there now
what is up is now down
IF YOU IN THE SO CALLED MEDIA WANT TO REPORT THEN REPORT THE TRUE FACTS AND ALL OF THEM , SO STOP PROTECTING YOUR MESSIAH
I would point out that in this particular case, it was the UK which perfidiously (from the American point of view) conspired with the Libyans directly contrary to what the British government must know was a point of great sensitivity to American opinion.
From my perspective, that suggests the Blair government intended it as a snub to the US for some reason, and that it was more than simply placing a permanent interest ahead of hits alliance with the United States. You cannot imagine the level of ill-will that generated here. I'm usually a strong Anglophile, but I thought that was very bad form.
No question that relations are deteriorating under the Kenyan (regardless of the birth question, on which I express no opinion, he is of recent colonial heritage) who clearly resents and dislike the British, perhaps for the way his father was treated.
Speak for yourself. Stretch his neck as far apart as east from west is what I say.
It is showing everyone just how corrupt everything has become.
I stand by my own experiences. Why don’t you create a profile for yourself? I notice more and more people are not doing that.
Why ? Because he exposed your government for what it actually is? Is anything not truth? Tell me what is not truth? Do you like truth?
First off, I am not English so "your government" does not apply.
Stealing is a sin truth most that claim to be Christian understand, Posting private property not released to you is stealing and treason. Yes, this time England is shed in a dark light, but that is irrelevant.
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You can ignore the stealing if you want. I will not. Have a good day sir.
Are we forgiven of our sins?
This really saddens me. But, hey, they did it on obastard’s watch after he insulted them.
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