I’m not arguing that at all. Simply stated current law is that if you’re born here even if your parents are here illegally you are eligible to be president. Unless someone wins a case in SCOTUS that says that kids born in the US to non citizens are not automatically citizens then under current understanding of the constitution they are natural born citizens.
An interesting question on the “natural born” part would be 1. Is a child born by cesarean section “natural born” since artifical means were used to deliver the child rather than coming into the world in the natural path via the birth canal
2. Are children conceived by artificial insemination especially by in vitro fertilization “natural born” since conception was hardly natural.
The court has never dealt with those issues.
As for President Arthur it was never proven he wasn’t born in Vermont as his parents and he claimed. His father wasn’t naturalized until several years after his birth and as a result Arthur did have dual citizenship. If he were born in Canada to an American mother and Irish father under current law he’d still be a citizen if certain conditions were meant: “If one parent is a US citizen and the other parent is not, the child is a citizen if the US citizen parent has been “physically present” in the US before the child’s birth for a total period of at least five years, and at least two of those five years were after the US citizen parent’s fourteenth birthday.” Does this jus sanguinis birth confirm the right to the term “natural born citizen” I’m not sure. It’s why McCain was eligible even though he was born in the Canal Zone to 2 US citizen parents.
However, your opinions are far from settled law at this time, even if a majority of the electorate were to concur. Furthermore, your digression into obstetrical matters are not germane to the question. IMHO.
Please note that it has been recently discovered during legal research on the issue of Obama's eligibility that Chester Arthur knew that he was ineligible, and that he took great pains to destroy all documentary evidence of his fraud before his death. A reasonable man might well ask, "Why is Obama taking such great pains to obscure his history?"
You seem a fair-minded person. Why not support the efforts being made for a judicial review of the concept of Natural Born Citizenship? Here is a good link to the POV opposed to your own.
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puzo1.blogspot.com/ - Cached - Similar
At the time Arthur was born, a foreign-born child of a citizen *mother* but alien *father* would not have been a citizen at birth, and thus would not be a natural-born citizen. So had Arthur been born in Canada, he would not have been a U.S. citizen at birth.
The overwhelming majority of scholars interpret the natural-born citizen clause to allow persons who were U.S. citizens at birth to qualify for the presidency. That would include, under current law, a foreign-born child of two U.S. citizens.
Artificial insemination might raise issues if the sperm donor is not of American nationality. And with so many American parents adopting from overseas, I am curious as to what status those children hold.
You are an idiot.