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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I had never heard of the groups involved before this article, but a quick search led to this: http://www.ijsn.net/home/ the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network, one of the sponsors of the event eventually seeking to bar these particular pro-Zionist Jews. The leader of the IJSN is apparently a survivor of concentration camps in WWII and presumably as Jewish as the kippa-wearing pro-Zionist Rutgers students mentioned. Which group was more frum, and which was more frey, I don’t know. But I think it’s irresponsible, especially for non-Jews like myself and I’d guess most of the posters here, to characterize this as anti-Jewish when both groups involved were Jewish or partly Jewish.


13 posted on 01/30/2011 7:12:16 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

I looked up frum and frey. I found frum — devout or observant of the 613 Jewish commandments — but all I got for frey was something out of Norse mythology. What is the Jewish/yiddish meaning of frey?


14 posted on 01/30/2011 7:40:37 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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To: OldNewYork
"But I think it’s irresponsible, especially for non-Jews like myself and I’d guess most of the posters here, to characterize this as anti-Jewish when both groups involved were Jewish or partly Jewish."

They did not just try to silence the dissent, they specifically targeted Jews. Even if the IJSN is led by a self-hating Jew, the group "asked campus police to bar students wearing kippas." Kippas are the little caps worn by Jews.

Hitler was part Jewish too, and I hope you agree that he was anti-Jewish.

17 posted on 01/30/2011 8:37:51 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: OldNewYork
But I think it’s irresponsible, especially for non-Jews like myself and I’d guess most of the posters here, to characterize this as anti-Jewish when both groups involved were Jewish or partly Jewish.

Pardon for being blunt, but that's asinine. Opposing the continued existance of the Jewish State, is inherently anti-Israeli (with a small exception). If one said France should cease to exist, they would be deemed anti-French. If you said Vietnam should not exist, you would be anti-Vietnamese. Prior to the re-establishment of Israel, people could be anti-Zionists without being antisemitic. In so far as Israel exists one is calling for end of the Jewish nation, an act that cannot occur without mass murder.
Are there people of Jewish descent who are anti-Zionists? Yes, but that does not preclude them from being anti-Semites. Most leftist anti-Zionists are communists, apostate members of antisemitic cult dedicated to the eradication of Judaism and Jewishness. Others are delusional liberals who unconsciously wish to slowly destroy Judaism through liberalism. But these neo-Frankists, the Schutzjuden for the left deserve no more respect than the Judenrat. {Yes, I am Jewish and I'm pissed off.}
Finally, there are anti-Zionists Orthodox Jews who fall into two camps. The first see Israel as either a secular state or someone of an affront, but support its safety since because so many Jews live there. The other lacks this common sense. And then there are the swine like Neturei Karta, who not only place a Roman-imposed Rabbinic ruling above the Torah, but use it to justify whoring themselve to the PLO and Iran. They may pray 3 times a day for a Messianic return, but they do so on the bones of Jews they would see killed in their lunacy.

Would you like me to get started on gentile anti-Zionists?

29 posted on 01/31/2011 11:58:07 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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