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To: curiosity
Also it's really naive to say that there is no BC fraud. It's actually quite rampant in some places. Like for example Hawaii, as Sun Yat Sen's case shows. He wasn't the only one.

Here, consider Puerto Rico's case:

The government of Puerto Rico is invalidating every birth certificate issued on the island before July 1, 2010, in an attempt to curb rampant fraud and identity theft that officials say has ruined lives, strained social service programs and compromised national security.

Each of Puerto Rico's 4 million residents and the estimated 1.2 million Puerto Rico-born Americans living in the 50 states will have to apply for new vital documents to legally prove that they exist and remain eligible for government benefits.

The U.S. State Department and Homeland Security Department estimate that an astonishing 40 percent of all U.S. passport fraud cases in recent years involved Puerto Rican birth certificates, though exact numbers are unknown.

"There are so many [Puerto Rican birth certificates] floating around… a lot fall into the hands of unscrupulous individuals," said State Department Bureau of Consular Affairs spokeswoman Rosemary Macray. "We've uncovered many cases of people posing as Puerto Ricans" in applying for U.S. passports.

For more read: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/puerto-rico-birth-certificate-crisis-invalidating-fix/story?id=10422841

For the Obama and who ever "registered" him in 1961 or whenever it was done, Hawaii was the place of choice.
182 posted on 02/02/2011 10:01:52 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
Also it's really naive to say that there is no BC fraud.

I didn't say there isn't ANY fraud. Just that it isn't common in places like Hawaii.

It's actually quite rampant in some places. Like for example Hawaii,

It is rampant in some places, but Hawaii isn't one of them.

as Sun Yat Sen's case shows.

The fact that you can come up with only ONE case, which happened 50 years before Obama's birth, is pretty good evidence that BC fraud in Hawaii is rare.

Here, consider Puerto Rico's case:

That's very interesting, but in case you didn't know, Puerto Rico isn't Hawaii. Puerto Rico isn't 3,000 miles from the nearest landmass.

183 posted on 02/02/2011 10:54:38 AM PST by curiosity
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