Even if you think the COLB is fake (a proposition for which there is no evidence even for reasonable suspicion), we know his birth certificate is neither delayed nor amended.
His BC couldn't be delayed because it was filed within 4 days. We know that from the birth announcements. We also know from the birth index that it couldn't have been amended, as there is no entry in the index of any amendments.
In fact Hawaii appears to have admitted it was amended
No it has not.
Just because it is not on the southern border doesn't mean it is not a problem,
Well, the government report you cite says the problems are concentrated on the Southern border. It makes no mention of any fraud problems in Hawaii, and there is no evidence of any widespread BC fraud in Hawaii.
Hawaii made it so easy to get a BC they may not have needed to resort to mid-wife fraud.
Hawaii made it no easier than any other state at the time.
They of course are entirely a border state surrounded by oceans which makes it easy for one to land via boat on their shores with a newborn and claim birth in Hawaii.
LOL. Do you have any idea how far Hawaii is from the nearest landmass? There's a reason the CIS doesn't consider Hawaii to be a major crossing point for illegal entry into the US.
Ignorance of a seldom known immigration law and desire to have a US citizen child
LOL. So Stanely Ann and her mother know enough technical details of immigration law to know she wasn't old enough to pass on citizenship to her son should he be born in Kenya, but then at the same time she was too ignorant of immigration law to know she could get her son naturalized, legally and without having to resort to fraud.
Make up your mind. Either she was knowledgeable of the law, or she wasn't. You can't have it both ways.
Speculation upon speculation is fine for a murder mystery, but in real life, and this is real, such speculations are a perversion of what must be done by duty to the Constitution and the rule of Law — to have a proceeding with the ability to subpoena, depose, compel testimony in order to get to the FACTS in this matter of highest importance.
We know nothing of the sort we have not seen his real COLB
......... Even if you think the COLB is fake (a proposition for which there is no evidence even for reasonable suspicion), we know his birth certificate is neither delayed nor amended......
.....His BC couldn't be delayed because it was filed within 4 days. We know that from the birth announcements. We also know from the birth index that it couldn't have been amended, as there is no entry in the index of any amendments......
WE know nothing of any adoption records other than what was shown on his Indonesia school records and amendment could be concealed in adoption records.
Butterdezillion's blog says the Hawaii Department of Health (HDOH) has indirectly confirmed that Obama’s FactCheck.org COLB is a forgery because:
1) They have made a statutory admission that his certification of Live Birth (COLB) has been amended, which is required to be shown on a legitimate COLB, but is not shown on the FactCheck.org COLB, and
2) Director Okubao has said that Oahu birth certificate’s have always been given the birth certificate number by the HDOH on the “date filed.” The FactCheck.org COLB has a “date filed” 3 days earlier than the Nordyke twins’ but was given a number later than theirs. This statement by Okubo rules out past explanations (hospitals numbering the birth certificate’s or being given blocks of numbers, or birth certificate’s sitting in piles at the HDOH for days before being numbered). This means that either the “date filed”, certificate number, or both have been altered on the FactCheck.org COLB.
Because Obama’s genuine birth certificate is amended, Hawaii law (HRS 338-17) says that it has no legal value unless it is presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body and they rule the birth certificate to be probative. Obama has fought lawsuits to make sure that his birth certificate could never be presented as evidence, even though it is the only way he can have any birth facts legally determined.
In fact Hawaii appears to have admitted it was amended
...... No it has not.
Yes it has prove it.
Just because it is not on the southern border doesn't mean it is not a problem,
......Well the government report you cite says the problems are concentrated on the Southern border. It makes no mention of any fraud problems in Hawaii, and there is no evidence of any widespread BC fraud in Hawaii.....
Not yet..but thats just one govt report.
Hawaii made it so easy to get a BC they may not have needed to resort to mid-wife fraud.
...... Hawaii made it no easier than any other state at the time...
Yes they did,
They of course are entirely a border state surrounded by oceans which makes it easy for one to land via boat on their shores with a newborn and claim birth in Hawaii.
.....LOL. Do you have any idea how far Hawaii is from the nearest landmass? There's a reason the CIS doesn't consider Hawaii to be a major crossing point for illegal entry into the US.....
Duh no its not a major crossing point but it is a destination center. Japanese, Filipinos and Mexicans are illegally in Hawaii.
Ignorance of a seldom known immigration law and desire to have a US citizen child
LOL.
.... So Stanely Ann and her mother know enough technical details of immigration law to know she wasn't old enough to pass on citizenship to her son should he be born in Kenya, but then at the same time she was too ignorant of immigration law to know she could get her son naturalized, legally and without having to resort to fraud.
Make up your mind. Either she was knowledgeable of the law, or she wasn't. You can't have it both ways.
She likely didn't know either but in any case the age and pp and residency requirements were available in chart form, the naturalization was not. She may have planned on going to Hawaii but delayed and not allowed to leave Kenya. She may have gone to Canada. We really dont know because the State Department destroyed her passport records, how did that happen, by accident? ROFLMAO.Yes I can have it both ways.
TELL ME WHY OBAMA SHOULD NOT SHOW HIS LONG FORM BC any adoption records and school records as well as explain how and when he got his Social Security Card. Keep making excuses, no one is buying it. He needs to put up or step down. He is dividing the nation over a $12.00 issue. As he himself said the only people who don't want to disclose the truth are those with something to hide. There is no logical explanation for his hiding all his records other than they contain bad news for him, His track record as a pathological liar does not help his transparency or veracity either.