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To: Greenperson

NOT true. Janice Okubo specifically stated, later in that same article that you linked, that she cannot say WHAT that digital image represents.

“Still, she acknowledges: ‘I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the IMAGE ON THE SITE represents.’”

Leaving out that qualification by Okubo is what’s known as a lie of omission.

The HDOH specifically and always have avoided saying that the photoshopped DIGITAL IMAGE of what FactCheck BLOG, a partisan blog, purports to be a photograph of a 3-D document that their representatives photographed in Chicago in March, 2008, is AUTHENTIC.

Neither did the HDOH EVER authenticate the information that’s on that digital image, which is NOT evidentiary proof of anything. A digital image posted on a website is not and NEVER CAN BE a “valid Hawaii State Birth Certificate”. It’s an impossibility. A digital image on the Internet CANNOT BE a three-dimensional, certified, embossed, authenticated paper document. A digital image is a bunch of magnetic bits; it’s not anything that ANY government entity or even private entity would EVER accept as proof of anything.

I know it; astute freepers know it; Obama knows it; Janice Okubo knows it; Fukino knows it; the world knows it; and jamese777 knows it, too.

The HDOH NEVER said, EVER, that they produced the supposed underlying paper COLB for the Obama campaign in June 2007.

btw, as I’m sure you know, Politifact is a sister organization of and as partisan as FactCheck blog.


Has the state of Hawaii ever said that the 2007 Obama COLB is invalid, forged, or inauthentic?

Since the former Governor of Hawaii and the former Director of Health for Hawaii have confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii and since the information on a COLB comes from the original long form, this point seems rather moot.

“The state of Hawaii has said that the president was born there. That’s good enough for me.”—John Boehner, Speaker of the House.

Here’s a link to the testimony of Dr. Chiyome Fukino before the Hawaii Senate’s Committee on the Judiciary and Government Operations. Please note her
statement: “...despite the fact that the President posted a copy of the certificate on his former campaign website.”
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2010/Testimony/SB2937_TESTIMONY_JGO_02-23-10_LATE.pdf

And here’s a link to another 2009 interview with Janice Okubo, Director of Communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. Please note her statement that the president’s posted copy of his COLB should have ended the conspiracy theorists.
“It’s crazy,” said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. “I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”
http://washingtonindependent.com/51489/birther-movement-picks-up-steam


And here’s a link to an article stating that Hawaii has confirmed Obama’s natural born citizenship.
http://spotlight.vitals.com/2009/07/dr-chiyome-fukino-confirms-president-obamas-natural-citizenship/

I’m certain that if there were ever to be a deposition taken or sworn testimony in a court of law or testimony under oath before a congressional committee, Dr. Fukino, Janice Okubo, former Governor Lingle and state Registrar Dr. Onaka could speak directly to the Obama COLB image and its relationship to the hard copy in their files.


108 posted on 01/31/2011 12:41:43 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

You have reached new heights of ridiculousness now. Do you REALLY expect the HDOH to state that the online digital image is invalid, forged, or inauthentic? Why would they say that? For one thing, they’re partisans. For another thing, the entire state depends upon largesse from the Federal Govt., which Obama controls. As if that’s not enough, they would bring down the wrath of ObamaKhan on their heads. Why would they do that when they support him? Get real. What’s important is that they WILL NOT vouch for it, in any way, shape, or form. Now some Democrats in the Hawaiian legislature are trying to do an end run around the issue, hoping that if they can send out “SOMETHING” that says merely that he was born in Hawaii, that somehow that will keep him from having to produce a long-form birth certificate to get on the 2012 ballot and especially so that they will not be asked by a court or any election supervisor TO AUTHENTICATE that online COLB. If Obama should present a COLB that looks like the online image, then the elections officials can ask Hawaii to VERIFY every important piece of information on it. They don’t want to be in the position of having to say something’s not true and for sure they don’t want to be put into the position of having to produce and certify a NEW COLB for him. Because you can bet your sweet bippy that it won’t MATCH the online COLB, thus proving him the fraud that too many of us already suspect that he is.

You can quote Janice Okubo until the cows come home, but she NEVER authenticated that online image NOR did she attest in any way that the so-called facts on it are true. The bottom line is this:

IF OBAMA WOULD GIVE HIS CONSENT, THE VITAL RECORDS ON FILE IN HAWAII CAN AND WOULD BE RELEASED.

WHY WON’T HE GIVE HIS CONSENT TO RELEASE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR WHATEVER PASSES IN HAWAII FOR A BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

WHY, INSTEAD, DOES HE SPEND MILLIONS FIGHTING THE PRODUCTION OF THE PROOF AND WHY DID HE IMPRISON LTC LAKIN?


110 posted on 01/31/2011 12:56:01 PM PST by Greenperson
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