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To: MindBender26
There is some sympathy here on FR for the insurgents. This is idiocy.

They are not “democracy” seekers. They are being run by radical Islamists. The $ here come from Iran. The Muslim Brotherhood is the only organized opposition.

Ever since Carter, we have given Egypt aprox 3 billion $ a year. If Mubarak falls, (and with police leaving, this may be final straw,) we lose our best Islamic friend in ME. All the anti-Soviet opns in Afghanistan and later the anti-Talibanopns staged out of Cairo West AFB.

A “new” Egypt will be as anti-US as Iran, if not worse. These are the people who killed Sadat. This is not about freedom. This is all about anti-West Islamic dominance.

3 posted on 01/29/2011 12:41:15 PM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: MindBender26

Yup.

Mubarak also screwed up by killing the Internet. The Muslim Brotherhood has its own lines of communication. All he did is cut off the regular people from each other. Stupid.

The real question is how infiltrated is the Egyptian military by the Muslim Brotherhood? Anyone know?


7 posted on 01/29/2011 12:46:05 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: MindBender26

MB26 - Thanks for getting me straight on this. I’ve been telling myself that this doesn’t look good. All the while, I’m watching the “media” and others saying how wonderful it is that this is happening. I thought that I was missing something.


10 posted on 01/29/2011 12:48:49 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If ObamaCare is so great, why is Barry giving waivers to all of his friends, donors and supporters?)
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To: MindBender26

AMMAN, Jordan (AP) - The leader of Jordan’s powerful Muslim Brotherhood warned Saturday that unrest in Egypt will spread across the Mideast and Arabs will topple leaders allied with the United States.

“The Americans and (President Barack) Obama must be losing sleep over the popular revolt in Egypt,” he said. “Now, Obama must understand that the people have woken up and are ready to unseat the tyrant leaders who remained in power because of U.S. backing.”

Saeed did not specifically name King Abdullah. But he said Jordan’s prime minister “must draw lessons from Tunisia and Egypt and must swiftly implement political reforms.”

“We tell the Americans ‘enough is enough’,” he said.


14 posted on 01/29/2011 12:57:09 PM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: MindBender26
There is some sympathy here on FR for the insurgents. This is idiocy. They are not “democracy” seekers. They are being run by radical Islamists.

Is that why we're seeing vast numbers of bearded men carrying pictures of their favorite Imam, chanting Death to The Great Satan?

I understand the allure of conspiracy theories, but some events in life aren't Master Plans staged by nefarious enemies. Egyptian security, which has penetrated the MB thoroughly, didn't seem to see this coming. Probably for the obvious reason.

Mubarak has been in power for 30 years. The people clearly hate him. There was a successful revolt in a country nearby. The Egyptian people are now emboldened.

It's not as exciting as 'devious Islamist conspiracy strikes!', but whole scene is likely as straightforward as it looks.

26 posted on 01/29/2011 1:19:22 PM PST by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: MindBender26
They are not “democracy” seekers. They are being run by radical Islamists.

A lot of them are democracy seekers. Only problem is they are only helping the Muslim brotherhood because that is who will emerge victorious same as in Iran. The Iranian revolution was half leftist and half Shiite fanatic

I'm still pulling for Mubarek or the secular military to prevail

30 posted on 01/29/2011 1:22:12 PM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: MindBender26
"we lose our best Islamic friend in ME"

Out best friend in the Islamic ME is the Egyptian Army...and they aren't going anywhere.

31 posted on 01/29/2011 1:26:34 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: MindBender26

Someone needs to explain this to REDWOOD99. He thinks they are freedom fighters seeking democracy for crying out loud.


43 posted on 01/29/2011 2:10:19 PM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone & easier to carry.)
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To: MindBender26

I agree with you. At first I had sympathy for the rioters, but the more I looked at the situation and thought about it, the more I realized how bad it would be if they took control.

I am all for the Egyptian military crushing and killing as many of these street thugs as possible and then organizing to go after Iran.


44 posted on 01/29/2011 2:15:05 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: MindBender26

Someone needs to explain this to REDWOOD99. He thinks they are freedom fighters seeking democracy for crying out loud.


46 posted on 01/29/2011 2:15:51 PM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone & easier to carry.)
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