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To: pissant
Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868.

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Don't let this get in your way.

7 posted on 01/27/2011 11:01:12 AM PST by An Old Man
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To: An Old Man
Are you nuts? Do you not understand what you yourself quoted? PLEASE be kind enough to tell us what YOU suppose the phrase "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means in the 14th amendment
8 posted on 01/27/2011 11:05:55 AM PST by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: An Old Man

The issue will hinge on the original intent of the phrase -— “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.

What did the amenders mean? Did “subject to jurisdiction” mean anything other than that at least one of the parents must be a citizen of, or at least legally residing in, the United States?

THAT is the question that must be answered.


9 posted on 01/27/2011 11:06:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: An Old Man

Doesn’t say we can’t make it a punishable offence for a illegal to purposely have a baby here, or does it demand a state issue a birth certificate to said child.


10 posted on 01/27/2011 11:10:41 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Memo to Mitt Romney: Just go away.............)
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To: An Old Man

For an old man, you are an idiot. Illegal aliens are NOT subject to our jurisdiction. They are not here legally. PERIOD. The are subject to DEPORTATION, however.


39 posted on 01/27/2011 12:13:35 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: An Old Man
Don't let this get in your way.

No kidding. The author somehow managed to write an entire damned article about the Citizenship clause, without actually quoting the relevant part of the 14th Amendment.

Wonder why?

The only possibly weasel-wording that could justify an answer of "no," would be some sort of argument involving the definition of "subject to the jurisdiction."

43 posted on 01/27/2011 12:27:23 PM PST by r9etb
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To: An Old Man

Excatly what we went by when I was in the U.S. Border Patrol.


63 posted on 01/27/2011 2:28:07 PM PST by Hotmetal (GO DAWGS !!!!!!!)
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