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To: Brofholdonow; spetznaz; Perdogg; Yo-Yo; Citizen of the Savage Nation

Ping-pretty big and neat report. Article is a summary

http://carnegieendowment.org/files/dogfight.pdf


2 posted on 01/26/2011 8:35:44 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Great match-up chart of competing aircraft.


3 posted on 01/26/2011 8:47:58 PM PST by lbryce
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Thanks. Quite interesting. I do wonder though why they have listed the unit cost of the ‘Super’-Viper at US$30m, when the Block 60 for the UAE is at 80. Also, on the same platform, why they claim it can supercruise (the only aircraft in the MMRCA that I thought could do that at a speed that made sense and when not completely clean were the Typhoon and the Gripen NG, and even then only with an A2A loadout). When did the F-16 become a combat load s’cruiser?


4 posted on 01/26/2011 10:07:40 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Nice, more MMRCA fun. Is the SH TW ratio taking into account thhe 20% EPE boost? I see the EPE mentioned, but it doesn’t seem so since 0.98 is the old number. The SH is not the top air superiority fighter in this mix (that belongs to the Typhoon), but it is quite potent with the best radar of the lot, and after all, this is a Multi Role competition after all. Couple the Rhino with the Growler, the F-18 offers advantages the others can’t match.

That being said, it depends on what exactly India wants. If tech transfer is the priority, that skews the results to France....if for some reason they want yet another a2a bird to go with the su-30s and FGFA, then Typhoon is the favorite.


15 posted on 01/28/2011 4:40:44 AM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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