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Breaking: On air Interview of Gov Abercrombie long time friend "There is no birth certificate!"
Hollywood Insider Radio Interview ^ | 1-25-2011 | Mike Evans

Posted on 01/24/2011 1:16:44 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009

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To: Yaelle

Those are the critical questions.

Who are Obama’s handlers? And what other laws are they breaking, and for what purpose are they doing all this?


601 posted on 01/25/2011 8:51:51 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Yaelle

QUESTION FOR ALL

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Is this considered owing allegiance to the US for treason purposes? If he is a plain old illegal alien does he owe allegiance to the US for treason purposes?


602 posted on 01/25/2011 9:06:14 AM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: PIF

>>because they would have succeeded in destroying the US.<<

It was destroyed in the past 40 years. Maybe we can reshape it back to what we used to have.

A Frightening Analysis

We all know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American’s finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, “Mexifornia,” explaining how immigration — both legal and illegal — was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, “If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that ‘An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.’”

“Here is how they do it,” Lamm said: First to destroy America, “Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: ‘The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.”

Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, “Invent ‘multiculturalism’ and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, “We could make the United States a ‘Hispanic Quebec’ without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: ‘The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved! Not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.’”

Lamm said, “I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.”

“Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.”

“My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of ‘Victimology.’ I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.”

“My sixth plan for America’s downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity! Unity is what it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games.

A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell.

“E. Pluribus Unum” — From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the ‘pluribus’ instead of the ‘Unum,’ we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo.”

“Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of ‘diversity.’ I would find a word similar to ‘heretic’ in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like ‘racist’ or ‘x! xenophobes’ halt discussion and debate.”

“Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of ‘Victimology,’ I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.”

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, “Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis’s book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don’t read that book.”

There was no applause.

A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate ‘diversity.’ American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America — take note of California and other states — to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell’s book “1984.” In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: “War is peace,” “Freedom is slavery,” and “Ignorance is strength.”

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy are deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don’t get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.


603 posted on 01/25/2011 9:34:14 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: jonrick46

>Then, if no birth certificate exists in Hawaii, DON’T YOU THINK WE SHOULD LOOK IN KENYA WHERE ZER0 WAS BORN?<

funny, Obama’s records in Kenya are sealed by the Kenyan Government .. his cousin Odinga runs the country ...


604 posted on 01/25/2011 10:17:27 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Needs repeating:

Obama was born in Kenya; many reports of “Kenya Born” Obama ...

KENYAN BORN OBAMA ALL SET FOR SENATE former article:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

AllAfrica.com — “Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan-born Senator...”
http://allafrica.com/stories/200802180051.html

SECURITY CONCERNS FOR TOURISM AS SENATOR OBAMA JETS INTO KENYA
As Kenyan born US Senator Barack Obama…(13th headline down)
http://www.africa-ata.org/ug_newsletter.htm

NPR …STORIES OUT OF AFRICA:
http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/images/kenyan-born-npr-page.jpg

THE CITIZEN:
We witnessed last year a senator with his origins from east Africa, Barack Abdallah Husein Obama, becoming the first black US president……..
http://thecitizen.co.tz/magazines/32-political-platform/2708-zanzibar-could-reverse-trend-to-have-president-from-pemba.html

THE NIGERIAN OBSERVER:
http://oilforimmigration.org/images/screencapt3.jpg

THE GHANAIAN TIMES:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll1/BecJul/Go_Obama_Ghanaian_Times2.jpg?t=1255731958

Kenyan born U.S. Senator “exploring ways” of helping home province:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll1/BecJul/BBC_NEWS_Kenyan_Born_Obama.jpg?t=1259875484

584 posted on January 25, 2011 6:34:45 PM GMT+09:00 by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Direct podcast link to the KQRS Morning show on Jan 21st

Fast loading audio:

(towards the end of this podcast)

http://podfuse-dl.andomedia.com/800185/podfuse-origin.andomedia.com/citadel_origin/pods/msp/kqrsmorningshow/201101201.mp3


605 posted on 01/25/2011 10:29:36 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
A must read

http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/23/hawaii-ground-report-could-hawaiian-governor-neil-abercrombie-not-be-as-incompetent-and-foolish-as-he-appears-but-orchestrating-a-deliberate-birth-certificate-recovery-dead-end-to-cover-his-own-pap/

606 posted on 01/25/2011 10:31:15 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

That’s a perfect description that You have given this Evil Emmissary of SATAN!


607 posted on 01/25/2011 11:08:33 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Tying the two related threads together.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2662799/posts


608 posted on 01/25/2011 11:23:41 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Munz

Just read your link.

There has got to be more than just a name change. Absolutely.


609 posted on 01/25/2011 11:53:53 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I think Abercrombie is acting under lawyer advice and his goal is to avoid a grand jury or subsequent jury experience. I really think he’s scared now.


610 posted on 01/25/2011 12:05:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

I think Abercrombie is acting under lawyer advice and his goal is to avoid a grand jury or subsequent jury experience. I really think he’s scared now.


And he is so much in the news that he probably feels secure that he isn’t going to be rubbed out. Someone should ask him whether he knew Toots at all.


611 posted on 01/25/2011 12:09:27 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: TheBigJ

That’s always been the clincher for me: He was reported as born in Kenya - without objection - until it became necessary for him to be born in Hawaii - without proof. But anyone who believed the earlier reports is now a “crazy birther.” Uh huh.


612 posted on 01/25/2011 12:09:42 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: Yaelle

>No, even in that Presidential oath he does not have to swear that he is eligible. Swearing to uphold the Constitution? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Reid and pelosi swore on it too. No one appears to care.

Yes, I realize I’m a no-one.


613 posted on 01/25/2011 12:17:18 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: little jeremiah

I have read it. But I am just saying at the bare minimum .. a name change or different identity from his birth could cause problems that woudl result in his being charged with filing false documents. A felony.

that is bare minimum.

There is something he is hiding. But to be quite honest, I don;t want the birth certificate anymore.
I want it all .. his college transcripts, applications, social security numbers, selective service registration, health records - MENTAL health records.

I want all of it .. WE THE PEOPLE have a greater entitlement to see his records if he wants to lead this nation than his right to privacy.

If he wants his privacy .. leave the Oval office, else PRODUCE EVERY RECORD ON FILE! Unseal EVERYTHING!

(not shouting at you .. just very upset over this nonsense - it has gone on for far too long and people have sacrificed their liberty for this man who has spent 2 million to hide everything he can)


614 posted on 01/25/2011 12:21:45 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together, concern for the rule of law and the Constitution wants the whole shebang - birth docs, adoption docs, naturalization or renuncation of citizenship docs, school docs, passport docs - all of it.

The doc showing that the ****er wasn’t born in the US will be the pry bar that loosens up all the other docs.

Oh yeah, health records - arrest records, rehab records - everything!

The pry bar is needed first. And it looks pretty close now.


615 posted on 01/25/2011 12:29:13 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: B4Ranch
“It was destroyed in the past 40 years.”

No kidding! What I meant was they will destroy even the little remaining.

His first point should have been: create special agencies to manage the environment (EPA). 1972

Second point: make friends with the world's greatest mass murderer - Mao Tse Tung. 1972

Third point: destroy the commercial fishing industry by giving one segment (based on race and distorted interpretations of Treaties) special rights. 1974

Notice a common thread? Yep, it's that wonder kid R.M. Nixon.

Further back would be: pack the Supreme Court - FDR

Or more recently: continue destruction of the commercial fishing industry by driving out the Tuna Seine fleet. 1981. (R Reagan)

Everything else since are just mop up operations... IMHO

616 posted on 01/25/2011 1:41:50 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: little jeremiah

I agree, we need an in. Anything will do.
But the question is will congress really ever allow it to com eto light?

They have such a bad approval rating now, it is asking for anarchy


617 posted on 01/25/2011 3:15:19 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

Their approval rating will skyrocket if and when they place the rule of law, truth and justice before personal gain, position, and popularity,

I am 100% convinced.

Courage of one’s convictions is much more attractive than cowardice and pandering.


618 posted on 01/25/2011 3:34:23 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: jonrick46
Yes I've seen the video with Susan Blake, it was on WND:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107889

Her credibility is in question. She had mentioned that Stanley Ann didn't know how to change diapers, that she would be there only for a short time before visiting Obama Sr. in Boston. However, Obama Sr. did not go to Harvard until a year later. And Susan claimed she never saw Stanley again when in fact she was living/studying there.

Listing for Stanley Ann Obama appears in the 1961 Polk directory at the Seattle Public Library: http://www.seattlechatclub.org/ObamaListSm.jpg

Anna Obama phone listing, as listed in Seattle Reverse Directory, 1961-1962 -- http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr131/stevesharp2918/ObamaPix/AnnaObamaresidencelistedinSeattleRe.jpg

According to David, a Freeper here: "Blake, on her public record in Seattle, is an extreme Liberal who likely would have said anything to support whatever she was convinced was in the interest of preserving the Obama legend.

There is also in March 1962 Barry's babysitter, claimed by Mary Toutonghi: http://redoubtreporter.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-baby-sitter-awaits-new-era.html

HOWEVER, David, also mentioned: "Mary the Babysitter was a player and is not credible. She wasn't where she says she was and it is doubtful she was there at all."

The only witness that Obama Jr. was in Seattle is Susan Blake. Perhaps it's true?

Another friend was John W. Hunt in June-Sept 1962 who stated: “I had moved to Utah for a while after high school, and I came back to Seattle in the summer of 1962. I remember visiting the World’s Fair, and then stopping by Stanley Ann’s apartment on Capitol Hill. It was a small apartment, upstairs. It was after June, and could have been as late as September, 1962. I visited her for half a day or so. It was after the end of the spring quarter classes, and she wasn’t in classes, and didn’t have a job. I recall her being melancholy at the time. I had a sense that something wasn’t right in her.” However Hunt doesn't mention the baby Obama, why?

Seems Obama Jr.'s whereabouts undetermined, Stanley Ann's whereabouts undetermined after classes at Univ of Washington until they both show up a year later in Hawaii.
619 posted on 01/25/2011 3:53:22 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: TheBigJ
Toutonghi's account is what I believe happened. Here is World Net Daily's research on the early years of Obama:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=107889

Notice that the Susan Blake video has been scrubbed.

Here is more information. And in this section, there is discussion about Stanley Ann flying with son 2,680 air miles from Honolulu to Seattle only a few days after the birth of her baby. I say Stanley Ann flew arrived at Mercer Island when the child was about two weeks old and she flew from Kenya to Seattle. That is my theory. Otherwise, a birth certificate from Hawaii would have been more forthcoming. Here is that link:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=106018

There was something I found about a year ago that talked more about the capitol hill apartment. It described a communal eating arrangement at that place. I thought at the time I looked at that piece that there was great opportunity for those at that apartment to get to know Stanley Ann and the information surrounding Baby Barry. But as we are finding out, the Obama Regime is making sure that mouths are closed and phones are hanging up when the wrong questions are asked. It reminds me of something you would expect in a totalitarian country.

620 posted on 01/25/2011 6:44:05 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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