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1 posted on 01/24/2011 8:45:08 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Anyone drawing a paycheck from the Public treasury should be forbidden by law from unionizing.


2 posted on 01/24/2011 8:48:39 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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"Yet state officials committed to cutting costs already have options for putting the squeeze on their unions"

But the State politicians would rather dump their problems on a bankruptcy trustee and force him to make all the tough decisions and take all the political heat for them. Then they can tell their voters and supporters that they had no choice but to file and were totally against all those mean decisions the bankruptcy court made.

4 posted on 01/24/2011 8:53:35 AM PST by circlecity
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This is the first hint of the message from Wall Street to the GOP:

"You'd better bail out the states if necessary. It will be The End Of The World As We Know It if some munis go down. You remember what side your bread is buttered on, right??"

5 posted on 01/24/2011 8:57:50 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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Ping for later...


6 posted on 01/24/2011 9:02:03 AM PST by Rabble
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I am surprised at the WSJ - they sound naive and with a lack of knowledge of the real world, especially in dealing with unions. They are tough and politicians are weak. - nuff said
7 posted on 01/24/2011 9:09:50 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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Ever notice how a Democrat “cuts” spending?

They make the declaration that instead of cutting excess teachers, state maintenance workers or cutting their 6 figure salaries, they threaten to cut Police, crime fighting and fire fighters instead.

The stupid publik sure “wakes up” fast don't they?

8 posted on 01/24/2011 9:10:36 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: SeekAndFind

Bankruptcy is the only way to deal with union contracts and union pensions.


9 posted on 01/24/2011 9:14:10 AM PST by BuffaloJack (What rights will the Obama's regime take from us today?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve posted this on other threads today so I apologize up-front if you’ve already seen it. Still here it comes.


I’ve thought about this for a bit. And I have come to the conclusion that I think that it would be a good thing if a state of the United States were permitted to claim bankruptcy.

With that being said I do have a few conditions of my own.

1. The State wishing to declare bankruptcy would have to relinquish it’s standing as a ‘state’. It would assume the status of a territory of the United States.

2. It would lose the right to elect Senators and Congressmen to the Federal Congress while under Territory Status.

3. Although the Territory that was formerly a state could elect State Senators and State representatives to their “Territory House” Formerly known as the State Senate and State House of Representatives. They would not be able to elect a Governor. The territory Governor would be appointed from Washington D.C with the Full Congress and Senate passing approval by 66% of the voting members.

4. The Territory would not lose Territory status and Regain Statehood until the Following minimal requirements are met:

A. Territory status will be for a period of not less than 10 years.
B. A Territory must have a positive balance in their ‘books’ for at least two years consecutively.
C. No City or County within the Territory may be or have been in bankruptcy Status for at least 4 years prior to the Act of Reinstatement of Statehood being granted.
D. All Debts and obligations incurred by the former State that brought about the State Bankruptcy must be discharged for a period of 4 years prior to the Act of Reinstatement of Statehood being granted.

If you think about it, these conditions are very reasonable. Bankruptcy should have consequences and losing political power and a place at the Federal Hog Trough should be among them.


14 posted on 01/24/2011 9:31:03 AM PST by The Working Man
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Who cares if the Bond Markets get rattled?

Just like with mortgages in 2007, the muni/state bond risk has been covered up by accomodative, short-term gov’t policies. The risk is there, and it will come out sooner or later.

State Gov’ts AND the bond markets need to be rattled.


15 posted on 01/24/2011 9:33:16 AM PST by PGR88
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Yet state officials committed to cutting costs already have options for putting the squeeze on their unions. One is the threat of mass layoffs, which most governors can impose unilaterally. Governors and legislators also can prospectively freeze wages or even cut them through involuntary furloughs, as California and several other states did over the past two years.

If they laid off every current worker they just might be able to pay the pension and benefits for the retired workers. Teachers in my town can retire at 52 (it's going down to 50) so they can work ~30 years and then live off their pension for 30 years. It's insane.

20 posted on 01/24/2011 4:46:09 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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