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The Battle of Athens(TN,1946)
americanheritage.com ^ | 1985 | Lones Seiber

Posted on 01/23/2011 12:10:33 PM PST by marktwain

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A good bit of history. Worth re-reading.

It would be interesting to see how the state and federal government would respond if something like this were to happen today.

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41 posted on 01/24/2011 6:58:26 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Crim

Why don’t you edit the wiki page and add the missing facts?


42 posted on 01/24/2011 8:44:07 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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Daily Post-Athenian
43 posted on 01/24/2011 8:48:39 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: marktwain
Today, they'd have "conservative" commentators calling for "non-violent" solutions and calls to "let the system fix itself".

We never learn.

44 posted on 01/24/2011 8:59:51 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Tees Mom

Take up a collection for a citizen funded memorial.


45 posted on 01/24/2011 9:03:46 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: B4Ranch

“Why don’t you edit the wiki page and add the missing facts?”

I’ve played the wiki game before....you’re simply outnumbered....the libtards will simply revert your edits...

you want to see for yourself...go th

“Why don’t you edit the wiki page and add the missing facts?”

LMAO....go ahead and try it...see what happens...

I’ve played the wiki came with their libtards before.....you are out numbered...


46 posted on 01/24/2011 9:04:13 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: marktwain; Pelham
I hate to bust the bubble of folks looking to do the usual Dems all whores/GOP all angels simple logic but this fight was more about political power than ideology.

McMinn county was no pro desegregation powerhouse and east TN though Republican off and on is not the least bit socially "progressive" except around colleges.

This was a fight about being heard and having your slate elected to boards that mattered.

For instance back then often the sheriff in the south was the tax collector too.

The place is less than 5% black and never was exactly a cauldron of race heroics or misdeeds.

It is a mountainous/hilly area of small farms.

Btw...I've known this story all my life. Maybe academia is not interested and kids who post Wiki don't care but I'm not sure it's a conspiracy.

Like it or not, blacks in the south..even the few in McMinn county were ultimately given their vote (and all that BS pandering that sadly came too) from local white mostly Democrat at the time voting citizens who had had enough...bolstered by liberal GOP in DC and most Democrats in DC voting for all those acts etc.

I was there ..I saw it. Decent folks while not desiring their daughters to marry blacks (still don't mostly) did in fact want the turmoil to end, blacks be allowed to vote and thought the Klan was low class.

This McMinn thing was just about cronyism...little to do with much beyond that and is no milestone in black Civil Rights.

it's this thinking that leads folks here to crow that all those civil rights acts were so great and MLK was a conservative

pure fantasy from conservatives for whom the truth is too complicated and messy

In the Deep South by the time of Reagan, most of those former White Southern Democrats were running as fast as they could into the new more socially conservative GOP of the silent-moral-majority...a Great Trek that had been in the making since Barry....even some southerners like my dad were Eisenhower men.

/rant

47 posted on 01/24/2011 9:26:38 AM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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I met Bill White Outside of Tellico Plains, TN in the late 1970's.

Here is a living history interview done in the year 2000 where Bill White talks about his days in WWII and the Battle of Athens.

This is very much worth reading.

http://web.utk.edu/~csws/interviews/white.pdf

Bill White

48 posted on 01/24/2011 10:01:38 AM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: Crim

We can only try.


49 posted on 01/24/2011 10:01:50 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: A. Patriot

If anyone can get a copy of the magazine, “Southern Outdoors”, December, 1978, there is a great article of Bill White hunting wild boar with a spear in the mountains. It also mentions the Battle of Athens.


50 posted on 01/24/2011 10:10:33 AM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: MileHi

mark


51 posted on 01/24/2011 10:15:23 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: B4Ranch

Be my guest...I’m simply saying “been there, done that”

I would suggest using original news articles from the period...some do exist scanned to the net...

May the schwartz be with you...


52 posted on 01/24/2011 10:24:48 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: A. Patriot
We knew that there was something bad wrong when we got back over here. And what was wrong [was], we had no freedom. We were over there fighting and being killed every day for freedom and we didn’t have none. We didn’t have no freedom. So we had to make us some freedom. Had to come back and fight another war to get a little freedom.

Kinda says it all doesn't it? Now think how far we've fallen since Bill's time...

Makes me wanna puke at the thought of our own cowardice.

53 posted on 01/24/2011 12:55:34 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: wardaddy

Excellent post, wardaddy (and not a bad rant, either).


54 posted on 01/24/2011 4:21:06 PM PST by kiryandil
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Bump for later


55 posted on 01/24/2011 6:16:29 PM PST by Ghengis
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To: wardaddy

There you go again, wrecking a perfectly good story with facts.

Next you’ll be telling us that Republicans like Rockefeller and Javits and Percy and Hatfield weren’t conservatives, and that Democrats like Harry Byrd and John Stennis and Strom Thurmond were. You are without a doubt going to fail Revisionism 101.


56 posted on 01/24/2011 7:22:43 PM PST by Pelham (Obammunism, the smooth-talking happy -face communist blend.)
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To: kiryandil; Pelham
thanks...I have never understood why some folks have to believe things to have been a mythic way just to feel ennobled maybe...about race in particular...I grew up in segregation...whites were not bad/evil folks then by and large...what makes folks today think they are better....they seem far less moral to me..

politics is convoluted and serpentine and circuitous in hindsight

this blather of GOP always good and Dems always bad...may be true 80% of the time especially since 1980 but that 20% exception kills us

would today's average conservative rather have John Stennis or Strom Thurmond or Sonny Montgomery fighting communism (hence Islam) or Lowell Wiecker or Nelson Rockefeller...or even Olympia Snowe?

this socially conservative GOP is a new animal...the Dixiecrats were more culturally conservative than most GOP at that time

57 posted on 01/24/2011 11:46:34 PM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: kiryandil

Excellent. Hallmark as opposed to Hollywood. I hadn’t considered that.


58 posted on 01/25/2011 2:39:41 AM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Dead Corpse

I couldn’t agree with you more. Here is another profound quote from Bill:

“The Special Forces didn’t take no prisoners. Yeah, we killed them all, and killed all we could, and wanted to kill more. We couldn’t kill enough of them because they badly mistreated us. So we’re going to badly mistreat them. You don’t win wars by being good people. You have to be as cruel and as vicious as that enemy or you don’t win. It’s just that simple, no in-betweens. You just fight to the death and let it go at that. That’s hard for people to understand, but that’s the way I liked it. Do you think for a minute that I’d give up to them people, let them abuse me, and torture me, and then kill me? No! That’s silly. You kill all of them you could kill. And then let them kill you if they can. That’s the way it is. And most Marines thought that way. That’s just the way American boys think. At least those American boys thought that way.”

Those were REAL men. I guess that is why they call them “The Greatest Generation”. Compare this to the wussies we have in our government - military leadership today. Our brave troops are not allowed to win today.


59 posted on 01/25/2011 6:17:05 AM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: A. Patriot

Look at how twisted the RoE in Ashcanistan is right now. Disgusting...


60 posted on 01/25/2011 7:02:03 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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