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To: investigateworld

(I base most of my Mormon comments on personal experience since I married one who left the LDS Church but frequently went back)

The deal with that is that some argue that Joe was just making offhand remarks about the future, the Constitution, and salvation and his buddies wove it into a prophecy when that really wan’t Smith’s intention.

Could also be that they knew that Joe was usually drunk (”The Jolly Prophet”) and frequently his mothings were actually whiskey talking.

That’s right-—the teetotalling LDS was founded by a heavy drinker.

At any rate, belief in the “White Horse Prophecy” is not universal among them and is not LDS dogma.


82 posted on 01/22/2011 6:49:42 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
I usually don't comment on the whole Mormon thing because its unimportant to me unless its the extremists like Warren Jeffs. Otherwise I hold pretty firm to the words of Thomas Jefferson.

I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all.

THOMAS JEFFERSON, letter to Francis Hopkinson, Mar. 13, 1789
86 posted on 01/22/2011 6:55:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Scanian
And old Joe wasn't bashful about making a quick dollar on the sly.

He and his father were known to be 'work-shy', unless it involved a scheme involving lost treasure.

89 posted on 01/22/2011 7:03:04 AM PST by investigateworld (Buy Ammo!)
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To: Scanian; SZonian; P-Marlowe; reaganaut; colorcountry
At any rate, belief in the “White Horse Prophecy” is not universal among them and is not LDS dogma.

I'm not so sure of that. When both Hatch and Beck publicly hold to the WH prophecy either openly or covertly, that should tell you something. In my own experience this "saving the Constitution when it is hanging by a thread" belief IS pretty universal among mormons, but like a lot of mormon beliefs non-mormons will hear a lot of "Oh, we don't believe THAT". There are quite a few "not for public consumption and I'll deny I ever said that" beliefs among the "saints".

In related belief, from the official LDS website on the post-millennium:

People on the Earth during the Millennium

116 posted on 01/22/2011 8:18:37 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("Journalists" see no problem with fueling a mass panic over our "political discourse.")
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