Posted on 01/21/2011 3:56:54 PM PST by Red Steel
:-) I don’t think you can really put Rush in this category. He did say that it sure is fishy that Gov. Abercrombie said he’d clear the birth certificate thing up, and then that he can’t find it, and ten that it’s not in the archive. And I agree with Rush. Everything about the Birth Certificate in Hawaii is fishy. But I don’t think we’re seeing what we’re meant to see...
As Rush noted today when speaking with a caller, this whole issue seems like a big set up to draw Conservatives in. It smells like a trap. It feels like a trap. Tread carefully.
The birther movement underestimates the most powerful political machine in the last 50 years: Clinton
If they couldn't get it, it ain't there....period; rest assured they gave it their all.
My money says that Hillary has the goods on Obama's eligibility just like Obama and the Chicago machine has the goods on Hillary.
It's political checkmate.
If he can’t locate the birth certificate, how did he manage to get on the ballot in Hawaii in 2008? It all came down to one individual making that decision. Funny, this guy happened to retire in 2009 coming under pressure because of a lawsuit that was filed in July 2008. Might want to check into whether George Soros owns/owned some shares of HART VOTING SYSTEMS.
http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/
New analysis of Democrat Party’s official 2008 Certification of Nominations for Obama reveals that reasons for his sudden trip to Hawaii in October, 2008 were to visit more than just his sick grandmother. Hawaiian election laws, media accounts and post-dated documents reveal he may have attended a private hearing with the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer regarding his disqualification from the Hawaiian ballot due to lack of certified Constitutional eligibility.
http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/
REVIEWING THE FACTS
1. Electors from each state rely on each party’s state authority in that state to certify the nomination of their candidates and verify their legal qualifications to serve under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution.
2. Hawaiian election law specifically requires each state’s party authority to file a sworn application (Official Certification of Nomination) with Hawaii’s Chief Elections Officer certifying the eligibility of each candidate to serve as President and Vice President of the United States.
3. Hawaii Revised Statute 11-113(c)(1)(B) specifically requires that this sworn application from each state party authority contains explicit language stating that all candidates are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution in order for the Chief Elections Officer to approve the candidate for placement on the state’s presidential ballot.
4. On August 27th, 2008, by notary attestment, authorities of the Democrat Party of Hawaii (DPH) signed a sworn Official Certification of Nomination and was required to submit the document to Hawaii’s Chief Election Officer, Kevin Cronin before 4:30 p.m. on September 5, 2008 or September 8, 2008 allowing for the count of one additional business day for one lost on Labor day.
5. The DPH, chaired by Brian Schatz, refused to include legally required language, per HRS 11-113(c)(1)(B), within the state party’s Official Certification of Nomination stating that Obama was Constitutionally eligible to serve as President.
6. The Democrat Party of Hawaii included this legally required language for other Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates in past elections dating to, at least, 2000 and 2004. Therefore, the omission of this language within the DPH’s 2008 OCON of Obama’s candidacy is not a mistake or an oversight. It was done intentionally and with full understanding of Brian Schatz that the Hawaiian CEO, Kevin Cronin, would not be legally permitted to approve Barack Obama as a candidate on the Hawaiian presidential ballot, unless the Democratic National Committee (the national party authority) included this language in its OCON.
7. The Republican Party of Hawaii included the legally required language in its sworn 2008 Official Certification of Nomination for John McCain and Sarah Palin, per HRS 11-113, without reservation or exceptions.
8. The Democrat Party of Hawaii refused to acknowledge that Barack Obama was legally qualified to serve as president under the provisions of U.S. Constitution and, therefore, the DPH refused to provide legal certification allowing the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer to approve the placement of Barack Obama on the Hawaiian presidential ballot.
9. Since the DPH did not provide legal certification of Barack Obama’s constitutional candidacy, Kevin Cronin, was required to send a written notice to Barack Obama informing him that the DPH refused to provide legal certification of his candidacy for approval of his inclusion on the State of Hawaii’s 2008 presidential ballot. Cronin was legally required to send this notification within 10 business days from the time Cronin received the OCON from the DPH. Cronin also had the option, under HRS 11-113, to extend the notification deadline five more business days for a total of 15 days from the day the DPH filed the OCON.
10. The DPH’s OCON is dated August 27th, 2008. However, HRS 11-113 provides that OCONs may be filed by 4:30 p.m. on no less than the 60th day prior to the day of the election. In this case, based on the alleged notarization date appearing the DPH’s OCON, the DPH still had eight more days to file the OCON and perhaps request verification documentation from Obama. Therefore, Obama received his notification of the Hawaiian CEO’s findings no later than September 29th, 2008.
11. However, documents provided by the Hawaiian Election Commission show that the Democratic National Committee, chaired by Nancy Pelosi, signed its 2008 Official Certification of Nomination with a date of August 28, 2008. However, documented evidence shows that the DNC also authored a separate version of its OCON at a later time. One version was sent only to Hawaii containing specific wording which directly contradicted that state party’s Constitutional authority to declare that Barack Obama was not constitutionally eligible to serve as President and was, therefore, not approved for inclusion on the Hawaiian presidential ballot.
12. Article IV-Section 4, Article IV-Section 1 and Article II-Section 1 of the Constitution grants sovereignty for certifying a candidate’s nomination and approving a candidate’s inclusion on each state’s presidential ballot to each state. The Democratic National Committee does not have the legal authority to supersede the sovereignty of Hawaii’s appointed authority to conduct election, approve ballot content and certify the nomination of candidates.
13. By intentionally contradicting the findings of Hawaii’s party authority for the purpose of forcing the state of Hawaii to include Obama’s candidacy on its ballot, the Democratic National Committee, headed by Nancy Pelosi, committed election fraud and violated the Constitutional right of the people of the state of Hawaii to an election process in which supreme power is held by the citizens and their entitlement to vote for Constitutionally eligible candidates.
14. The Official Certification of Nomination sent to Hawaii’s Chief Elections Officer by the DNC was not sent to any other state’s CEO.
15. Based on the authority given them by the Constitution, some states’ election laws do not require an explicit statement indicating a candidate’s legal qualifications to serve under the provisions of the Constitution, like Hawaii, but rather a general statement citing documentation that the candidate is qualified under federal law to serve as President and Vice President.
16. The DNC sent a different OCON to every other state omitting the reference to Constitutional eligibility.
17. Cronin sent written notification to Obama stating that Obama was found legally qualified to serve as President under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution based on the DNC’s OCON.
18. The Democratic Party of Hawaii and the Democratic National Committee do not agree with one another about the Constitutional qualifications of Barack Obama.
19. Cronin’s notifications have never been revealed to the public.
20. If the notification from Cronin to Obama stated that Obama was found not qualified to be on the Hawaiian ballot, Obama had five business days after the finding to send a written request for a hearing to contest the finding and reconcile his lack of eligibility with the DPH.
21. Upon receiving a request for a hearing from Obama, Cronin was obligated to schedule the hearing within 10 business days of receiving the request.
22. Hearings to contest candidate eligibility findings are conducted under Administrative Procedures governed by HRS AR 91, 92 and 3-170.
23. AR 91-9 allows a petitioner for a hearing to request reasonable scheduling accommodations in order to attend the hearing based on travel, personal matters and/or financial issues.
24. The hearing would have been conducted around mid to late October, 2008.
25. Barack Obama’s grandmother was reported to have become gravely ill in early to mid October, 2008.
26. Barack Obama was in Hawaii in mid October, 2008. The American public was told that his only business there was to visit with his ill grandmother.
27. Obama went to Hawaii, suddenly, without his wife and children, even though Dunham’s condition was reported to have been expectedly declining for several weeks, during which, at any time, Obama could have otherwise scheduled a planned visit. The exclusion of Dunham’s great-grandchildren and Michelle Obama during this visit is odd. Madelyn Dunham did not pass away for two more weeks after Obama’s visit having never been visited by Obama’s family in her final months.
27. HRS 11-113 (b) states: If there is no national party or the national and state parties…do not agree on the presidential and vice presidential candidates, the chief election officer may determine which candidates’ names shall be placed on the ballot or may leave the candidates’ names off the ballot completely.
28. Barack Obama was included on the 2008 Hawaiian Presidential ballot.
I’m sure they did.
When you consider that you can’t access any records - college, high school, grade school - certainly there are a number of people who have worked on this.
The only hope of getting to the bottom of this is having someone in this inner group decide to come clean.
Yep. And for good reason. A very similar reason, curiously enough.
I put Rush in the category of a cautious “Birther” and I always have. He’s been regularly bringing up Obama’s lack of bona fides for a very long time. He just has not done so in a substantial way in his past comments.
The writing on the wall is Barack Huessin Obama
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Who in holy hell IS this guy??
We know NOTHING about him.
We have a RIGHT to know about the POTUS!
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From The Obama File:
http://www.theobamafile.com/BarackObama.htm
Obama has lived for almost 50 years without leaving any footprints — none! There is no Obama documentation — no bona fides — no paper trail — nothing.
Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released (lawyers’ fees greater than $2,000,000 ~ birth certificate is $15)
Certification of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
Amended Certification of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released (if one exists)
Obama/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
Noelani Kindergarten records — Records lost (this is a big one — read two frames)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released (by independent investigators)
Punahou School application — Missing
Punahou School records — Not released
Noelani 3rd Grade records — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
Selective Service Registration — Released — Under suspicion
Social Security Number — Released (by independent investigators) — Under suspicion
Occidental College records — Not released
Financial Aid Records — Not released
Passport — Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None
Illinois Bar Records — Not released
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released — nor is the source of this nasty scar
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
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Governor of Hawaii Can't Find Barack Obama's Birth Certificate?
January 21, 2011
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: I've been sitting on this story all week, purposely, just to see where it would go. And it has grown. This governor out in Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie, a well-known socialist, by the way, longtime member of Congress, now the governor of Hawaii, really stepped in it earlier, well, I think it was not even this week, it was last week. The governor, Neil Abercrombie, some time ago said, (paraphrasing) "Look, I was there when Obama was born in Hawaii. That birth certificate, it exists. Everybody knows it. I was there when that kid was born." Turns out he wasn't there, and he admitted he wasn't there. He was there in spirit. He was trying to say he's that certain. See, he thinks that Obama ought to just get this off the table. Abercrombie is worried that this birth certificate thing is going to be a lingering problem heading into 2012. So Abercrombie, big friend of Obama, tried to step in there and head this off at the pass. It turns out he can't find the birth certificate, the governor of Hawaii cannot find it. It's just a notation that somebody wrote down.
This has now made its way to the UK Daily Mail: "Hawaii Governor Claims Record of Obama's Birth 'Exists in Archives' but Can't Produce the Vital Document." That's the headline. The story originated at World Net Daily in this country earlier, and of course if it originates anywhere outside the mainstream press, the mainstream press will not acknowledge it. "Pressure was mounting on Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie today amid increasing confusion over whether President Obama was born there." This is the UK Daily Mail. "Abercrombie said on Tuesday that an investigation had unearthed papers proving Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. He told Honolulu's Star-Advertiser: 'It actually exists in the archives, written down,' he said. But it became apparent that what had been discovered was an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate. And in the same interview Abercrombie suggested that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. He said efforts were still being made to track down definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii."
Remember, he started out, the whole reason for doing this was to firmly prove it and establish and get it off the table so it wasn't an election issue for 2012. And he's done the exact opposite now. I mean how many of us could get away with saying, "Yeah, there's a little notation somewhere there in the archives. We can't find the birth certificate. Oh, well, welcome to America, Mr. Limbaugh." Do you think if this was me and they were trying to prove that I wasn't an American and I insisted that I was, but I couldn't produce a birth certificate or wouldn't, and yet the governor of Missouri says, "Oh, yeah, there's a little notification, somebody wrote down Limbaugh was born here." Do you think that would fly? No, it wouldn't be, "Let him back in the country." It would be, "Get him out of the country. This guy's been an infiltrator since he was two," is what they would say about me, claiming that my original country of origin was China.
"Abercrombie was asked: 'You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?'" Kind of like how is that hope and change working for you? "He acknowledged the birth certificate issue would have 'political implications' for the next presidential election 'that we simply cannot have.'" Now, what does this tell us? Neil Abercrombie is no fool. When it comes to electoral politics, Abercrombie knows the ins and outs, and if Abercrombie senses a problem here -- look, the big mistake was to announce in public what you were gonna do before you knew you had what you told everybody what you were gonna produce. This is kind of like a lawyer granting somebody immunity without knowing what the heck they're going to say. So Abercrombie's kinda caught now.
"He acknowledged the birth certificate issue would have 'political implications' for the next presidential election 'that we simply cannot have.' 'It's a matter of principle with me,' the 72-year-old said. 'I knew his mum and dad. I was here when he was born. Anybody who wants to ask a question honestly could have had their answer already.'" But nobody has come forward to definitively prove it. In fact, most government officials have apparently done their best to seal it all off, whatever there is, they've sealed it all off. And they've tried to pooh-pooh any interest in it. And they have attempted to impugn those who have interest in it. It's merely a presidential constitutional requirement. It's really no big deal as far as the libs are concerned, but the Constitution's an impediment to them.
"Some believe his Certification of Live Birth is fake and he was really born in Kenya. Others argue that Obama is a citizen of the United Kingdom or Indonesia. Most theories have been dismissed by many in public office and the media, and have been found to be misleading or generally untrue." But I don't read here, it doesn't say most theories have been dismissed by public records officials. It just says dismissed by many in public office and in the media. Well, big whoop. "However, the conspiracy theories still thrive, and according to Abercrombie, are likely to continue despite whatever evidence that shows him to be a proper U.S. citizen." Well, that's the thing. Abercrombie wanted to get this out of the way. I would think that if Abercrombie is gonna do this, he's not the Lone Ranger. He's gotta be calling the White House, "Okay, look, we have a potential problem here. I want to find this thing and I want to make it public." If that happened, somebody at the regime did not say, "No, don't do it," because Abercrombie is still alive. If they had said, "No, don't do it," and Abercrombie is still doing it, I don't even want to think of the consequences of that.
This is really not that hard. Look, if somebody wanted your birth certificate and you don't have it, what do you do? You go to the state where you were born, go to the vital records, you go down there and you make a copy of it, produce it, let it be seen. The original thought was, well, you know, Obama, he knows he was born here. This is just toying. He knows that the birthers are a bunch of Looney Tune kook right-wingers, and he wants them illustrated as such. So he'll toy with them, sort of like Charlie Brown and Lucy and the football. And the media went along with that, "Oh, that's Obama. He's really politically smart, really crafty here. He's got these birthers looking like the Birchers that they are. He's got 'em looking like the biggest kooks on the face of the earth," and it went on and on and on that way. We have had several people of decent reputations file lawsuits in various states and they were thrown out. So the popular opinion has been, the consensus has been, "Yeah, he was born in Hawaii, isn't any big deal." They still can't prove it. This is stunning to me. Still can't prove it.
Now, it's still entirely possible all this is a giant head fake. For me, ladies and gentlemen, the sophisticated political figure that I am, it's really hard for me to believe that Neil Abercrombie just one day woke up on his own and without consultation said, "This birth thing bugs me. I'm gonna call a press conference, and I'm gonna tell people I was there when he was born, and I knew his mom and dad, and he was born here and I'm gonna prove it." I said earlier, Abercrombie's no fool. Many Hawaiians would disagree with me on that, many have. But if this guy is acting on his own as I have just described, that's unbelievable. The alternative is he's not acting on his own, this is all part of a continuing head fake and that at some point after a lot of people have gotten revved up cause now, the UK Daily Mail Online is more mainstream than anywhere else in America this has. Okay, so it ratchets up and ratchets up and then a couple years down the road, year and a half down the road, guess what, the thing's found, and, oh, can you imagine the air that will be let out of people's sails then?
Now, you have to ask yourself, is this regime capable of that kind of trick? Yeah, they are. Are they capable of having the newly elected governor, a Democrat, replacing a Republican, Neil Abercrombie, start out this whole thing? Are they typical, capable of coming up with a program where Abercrombie embarrasses himself around the world on this and then all of a sudden after, what would it be, six and a half, seven years, voila, somebody finds the birth certificate right out in the open in some file in Hawaii. With this bunch the point is you just never know. "The Governor vowed when he took office in December that he would do his best to end the debate over Obama's birth, which began in 2008 during the presidential campaign." What's wrong with that sentence? "The Governor vowed when he took office in December that he would do his best to end the debate over Obama's birth." Where's the president on this? Where's the president's vow to end the debate over his birth? We're going on four years now of this. It keeps intensifying. (interruption) Yeah, well, if that's true, would that not be great? If they found it in a garage sale next to one of those shaved ice stations?
Here's what's gonna happen. That's exactly right. They're going to find it in a garage sale in Kahala, and it will be stapled to two things. It would be stapled to a pocket Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. (laughing) Anyway, "Hawaii Governor Claims Record of Obama's Birth 'Exists in Archives' but Can't Produce the Vital Document." Where's Obama? Where's the White House? Is this guy flying alone? Neil Abercrombie on his own on this? So much of this is difficult to fathom, to believe.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: I'll tell you why I think Abercrombie may just be toying around with everybody on this to pull a political trick later on down the line. Remember October 31st, 2008, there was a statement from the director of the Hawaii Department of Health. His name is Chiyome Fukino, and here is the statement. I mean, all Abercrombie would have to do is ask this guy because this guy in his statement says he's seen it. "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures." So right here in his statement in 2008, he said he's seen it. Yet Abercrombie can't find it. Now, what gives here? Abercrombie is a Democrat. He's from the Pelosi, Jim Wright school. This guy was a Democrat for a long time. This guy knows every trick in the book. This guy voted with the Soviets over the Contras in Nicaragua.
This guy is every bit as far left as anybody in the House is today and he's running around saying he can't find the birth certificate and he's the governor. Yet the Department of Health director issued a statement on Halloween (I'm sure that's a coincidence) of 2008. He's seen it. "I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
"No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii." So the director of health for Hawaii says he personally saw it. I've got the PDF file of his statement. I could link to it. We could post it at RushLimbaugh.com. Now, out of the blue here comes the new governor, Abercrombie, saying he can't find it. Now (sigh), folks, I'm just warning you: Be very, very careful on this. Something here is just not right, and you... (interruption) Well, I... (interruption) Snerdley, look. Snerdley says he's already got a call saying that somebody in Kenya has a birth certificate. What, the Hawaii birth certificate's in Kenya? (interruption) The Kenyan Obama birth certificate is in Kenya? This guy on the phone has seen it? (interruption)
Oh, come on! Come on! Look, I know Open Line Friday is Open Line Friday, but not gonna take a call from somebody who says she has Obama's Kenyan birth certificate! (interruption) What are you trying to do to me? The ChiComs have already set the American media on me. Now you're trying to get the Kenyan media on me. (interruption) For crying out loud, Snerdley, don't put that call up! Oh, my gosh. I knew I shoulda taken the day off.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: John in Orlando, Florida, great to have you with us on the EIB Network, sir, hello.
CALLER: Hello, Rush, 24/7 dittos from soggy Orlando today.
RUSH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER: It's a pleasure to speak to you. The reason I was calling, I was listening to the program earlier, and I heard you say something about something doesn't smell right with this whole birth certificate business in Hawaii.
RUSH: Right, it doesn't, because the director of health out there says he's seen the birth certificate. The governor says he wants to release it but he can't find it. Now, something's not anywhere near right here.
CALLER: Well, I'm sure that Obama and the left would like nothing more than to get talk radio, you and Hannity and Beck and all the rest, talking about all this stuff going on in Hawaii, sounding like a bunch of birthers, and then come back and attempt to discredit you, as if they could, just before the election --
RUSH: Yeah, I know.
CALLER: -- and say you're just a bunch of nut bags out there complaining and whining and all the rest.
RUSH: Yeah, because I can't imagine Abercrombie being a free agent on this. Abercrombie gets inaugurated governor and out of the blue says, "Ah, you know what, I'm worried about this birther thing, they may have something there. I gotta find that birth certificate, and I'm gonna release it, I'm gonna prove it once and for all." Then he says, "I can't find it. Oh no, I'm in trouble. I'm really embarrassing myself here." And that's the hook and the bait, the unsuspecting and the beguiled are expected to chomp on that hook, line, and sinker and be reeled in. I agree with you, there is untruth throughout this. If the Department of Health guy in Hawaii has seen it, and Abercrombie can't find it, and the White House is not commenting, yeah, I think, John, you're on to something.
END TRANSCRIPT
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012111/content/01125106.guest.html
Then I think he heard from the White House and is now backing out of this as best he can.
Even if Abercrombie finds the thing, he can't legally release it without (1) Obama's OK, (2) a court order (lots of luck), or (3) a change in Hawaii's privacy law.
If Hillary “had the goods”, she’d be sleeping in the White House.
I'm a bit disappointed that so many FReepers swallow up all this theoretical stuff, when they should know that the Clintons - who wanted Hillary in the WH ever so much, and had the machinery - couldn't/didn't utter a peep.
Zero's now-apparent socialist agenda should be easy enough to beat back at this stage. We need not make fools of ourselves with this Kenya foolishness; talk about fodder for the other side, this sh*t just continues to ask for it like we're a pack of fools.
ping
It must coufuse the hell out of the MSM's audience to hear that Abercrombie is searching for something besides Obama's COLB. Haven't they been told repeatedly that the released COLB was the only document that mattered? Aren't all birth certificates the same? Wasn't this issue settled long ago?
Of course, unless this is resolved quickly we will hear allegations that conservatives broke into the Department of Health and stole Obama's records.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the Islands version of “Arkancides” start to happen when the truth starts to seep out:
http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/
JC
So?...In other words Obama is using the birth certificate to play a political dirty trick on his political opponents?
Well....I do NOT NOT NOT think Americans will find that funny!
Please remember that:
1) A decorated officer of 17 is sitting in prison because Obama will have wanted to make his enemies look like “loons”.
2) Obama has sent ( TAX PAID)**government** attorneys all over the U.S. to keep this birth certificate from being released. Geeze! I wonder what the airfare and hotel bills alone cost, as well as all the research costs. And...Obama distracted these TAX PAID attorneys at time when plots were being laid to blow up Times Square, a Pittsburgh marathon, explode passenger jets out of the sky over Detroit, and KILL ( yes, that is KILL!) soldiers in our recruiting centers and bases.
So...What do you think the American people will think about Obama using a birth certificate to simply make his political opponents look bad?
Answer: They will rightly think Obama is a brainless and unfeeling JERK and complete dupnik!
I don't think that Rush is dumb enough to get all worked up over something that has a significant potential of backfiring on him. Boortz seems to be having a change of heart as well.
Hope I'm not wrong, but I do respect the intelligence of most of the conservative talkers.
Thanks for the ping!
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