“If there is NOT a birth certificate, then what is on file with the serial number 151-61-10641?”
I just saw this post on another message board. Not only can’t they find the birth certificate they’ve confirmed the COLB is fake.
WND broke a story earlier today that showed two long-form Birth Certificates (for Twins), provided to the Mother by Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu.
The Certificate number is systematically formed from this sequence as follows:
It should start in the numbers 151, which is federal code for Hawaii’s birth certificates, a dash, then the year of birth, followed by the birth order number.
The Twins were assigned the following birth certificate numbers to their certificates (see WND article above):
151 – 61 – 10637 and 151 – 61 – 10638
As you can see, the birth order is in sequence according to the time of birth. One Twin was born shortly after the other, resulting in the two birth order numbers sequentially.
Obama was born before both the Twins (the day before), yet his birth order number is 10641 (going by that number, Obama would have been 3 births later (10638 + 3 = 10641).
Factcheck.org set out to prove the critics wrong by saying their staff evaluated Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth (short-form) first-hand and took pictures.
If you view this image (from Factcheck.org), you’ll now see the certificate number is no longer blacked out. It was always blacked out when posted on the Web, for whatever reason.
The new version (apart from the first one posted on DailyKoS and Fight The Smears) now had fold lines. It also contained a Seal (latest revision), whereas the first version did not.
The three issues above were a major concern of critics at the time back when the contraversey was in the early stages (see example).
There is no doubt in my mind that the Certificate of Live Birth is a forgery based on all the glaring research and the fact that you can create a certificate in 5 minutes that looks identical to Obama’s certificate.
So, in my opinion, I believe Factcheck.org researched (or whoever they were/are working for/with) how certificate numbers were constructed and made the necessary adjustments, but was it the correct adjustment on the latest version of the forged cetificate (there were 3 versions of the same forgery)?
In order to get more insight to this, I set out to see how I would derive a certificate number for Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth.
First, I’d search for a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth to see what a number looked like. I did this, and found one right away:
(Obama’s first verson had no Seal as this one above. He still doesn’t have a version with the stamped signature showing thru as this one does. Notice too, this one has the crease lines - Obama’s first two versions did not)
Notice the “birth order” number here is 10259. It would have to mean that 379 births (10638 - 10259 = 379) occured between May of 1930 to that of August 1961. From that we can conclude an average of 12 births per year (379 / (1961 - 1930) = 12.22).
From an average of 12 births per year, we can conclude an average of 1 birth per month (on average). With the Twins, Obama and the 3 between (according to birth order numbers above), we would have 5 births in one month! If you take away one Twin, then you have 4 in one month - still 3X the computed average, which is possible because the 1 per month is only a “flat average”.
What is the possibility that Obama found a Certificate of Live Birth from 1961 (or his team - Rockefeller, Soros etc.) and “guessed” at a number in close proximity before doing the 3rd and final Factcheck version of the certificate?
I’d say the possibility is quite high considering the order number is clearly out of sequence. I do know, that early in the contraversey, someone pulled out their 1961 long-form birth certificate from Hawaii and put it on the Web. If someone was searching around that time, they could have found that number and went from there.
If anyone out there was born in 1961 - have your long or short-form with the certificate number, let’s see it? It’s possible that the next number in sequence could be for the following month (or even the one after that) according to the computed birth averages above.
Based on this analysis, it seems to raise even a bit of more suspicion for me. If Obama’s birth order number would have been before the Twins (as he was born before them! according to the dates), then I’d be less suspicious, but this out-of sequence also resembles the potential Selective Service forgery as well. If you’ve been following that, it too is what appears to be a blatant forgery. It too has the numbers somewhere in the ballpark, but doesn’t match up correctly.