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Steve Cohen on GOP/Nazi analogy: All I meant is that Republicans are liars like Goebbels
Hot Air ^ | 1/19/11 | Allahpundit

Posted on 01/21/2011 6:55:00 AM PST by laotzu

Of course he’s not sorry. As Ed noted this morning, not only has Cohen proved himself fully capable of vicious demagoguery before, but the last time he stooped this low he tossed in a little joke about McCain looking like a Vietcong POW again when he stood next to Palin. That’s the mentality you’re dealing with here — exhibit 8,579 in what a sleazy fraud the left’s ostentatious handwringing over “civility” is.

“I wasn’t trying to say, never would say, haven’t said and wouldn’t say that the Republicans are akin to the party that he [Goebbels] was a part of, but they [Republicans] did lie and they’ve said the lie over and over again,” Cohen said.

“The fact is that the government takeover of health care is a lie,” he said.

“I don’t think I was comparing the Republicans to Goebbels. I was saying that lies are lies and Goebbels was the great perpetrator of lies and that’s a danger, and if you look at Goebbels you can see the lie that he told about Jews which he constantly did, became considered fact in Germany that the Jews were evil, and people got involved and didn’t stand up.”…

“I think civility is not lying, and if you can’t come up and say that somebody is lying when they’re lying, then the lie becomes the truth. That’s not uncivil to say somebody lied,” he said.

But, after several questions about the appropriateness of evoking a Nazi to make that point, Cohen did say that “there are no Nazis in Congress, there are some liars, but no Nazis.”

Just so we’re clear: Lying is uncivil, but reaching for and belaboring a comparison between your opponents and the Nazi propaganda minister who drummed up support for the Final Solution is just speaking “truth to power” or whatever the progressive catchphrase of the moment might be. As for his underlying point about O-Care being a government takeover of health care, true enough — there’ll be a lottttt more government interference in the marketplace now, as even the law’s proponents concede, but the full takeover will have to wait until costs start going up and insurers start imploding and the left starts pushing for the public option and inevitably single-payer to “fix the problem.” In fact, below you’ll find Rachel Maddow nudging Pelosi just last night about ObamaCare being something to “build on” if it survives the GOP’s repeal endeavors. It’s intended to bring about a government takeover of health care down the road, but we’re not quite all the way there yet ergo the Republicans are guilty of a Big Lie worthy of Josef Goebbels. Good work, Steve.

Speaking of big lies, watch out for Nancy asserting here that if the Democrats hadn’t passed ObamaCare they might have lost even more seats in November. That’s the left’s old “effectiveness” argument in action — that if Obama and Pelosi took up health-care reform and then abandoned it without passing it a la Clinton, the base would have been so dispirited that no one would have turned out to vote. Could be, but note the false choice posed there in what to do once they had started work on the bill. A radical alternative not considered: Obama could have declared early on that they shouldn’t start work on the bill at all, that health-care reform should wait until the economic recovery had begun in earnest and the deficit was under control. That would have won him and Pelosi a ton of goodwill from independents by proving that their priorities were in line with voters’. Instead the Democrats went the way they did, and Pelosi, at least, will apparently never forgive the electorate for the result.


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Cohen also offered this, ummmm, 'apology':

"I want to be clear that I never called Republicans Nazis," said the Tennessee lawmaker in a statement issued Thursday. "I regret that anyone in the Jewish community, my Republican colleagues or anyone else was offended by the portrayal of my comments."

Mr. Cohen said it was "disappointing" his comments have been used to distract from the health care reform debate.

1 posted on 01/21/2011 6:55:02 AM PST by laotzu
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To: laotzu

Yes, cohen, you did call us nazi’s..and by using the name Goebbels, you Lost the argument per GODWIN’S LAW..

Unless of course we start rounding up Liberals and putting them in CAMPS.. then you might have a possible comparison..

until then ...STFU!!!!


2 posted on 01/21/2011 6:58:07 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (NY... Can't afford to Live Here... Can't Afford to LEAVE!!)
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To: laotzu
First of all, remember when the GOP Congress-critter got in trouble for saying that Obama lied at an inopportune time?

Secondly, the reference to Goebbels is dated-- why not try a more contemporary liar-- like President Clinton?

(Oops, can't do that, can we?)

3 posted on 01/21/2011 6:58:39 AM PST by Lysandru
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To: laotzu
Let's see now, this jerk calls conservatives “Nazis,” then “apologizes, and the media dutifully reports and supports that “appology.” Compare that to a conservative, Sarah Palin, who was pilloried by the media's attacks upon her for something with which she had nothing to do.

Double standard again in our sterling main street media. Think I will read “China Daily” instead of any US news paper. Perhaps it will be more balanced.

4 posted on 01/21/2011 7:09:25 AM PST by LOC1
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To: laotzu
Dear Stevie...You are still a Schmuck...


5 posted on 01/21/2011 7:12:23 AM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: laotzu

This clown was ELECTED to office. It gives us all an idea of how bad things really are. Undoing this nightmare....???

I dunno.


6 posted on 01/21/2011 7:13:29 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: laotzu

Our only hope is most of the people in this country don’t know what a “congress” is. So, hopefully, they won’t be ready when the SHTF.


7 posted on 01/21/2011 7:13:45 AM PST by Terry Mross (I voted for McCain and WASTED my vote.)
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To: PaleoBob

That end of Tennessee is a real mess...


8 posted on 01/21/2011 7:17:20 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: PaleoBob

This fool gave the address at my granddaughters college graduation. His only advice to the grads was to be kind to their pets. And, no I’m not kidding.


9 posted on 01/21/2011 7:30:10 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: who knows what evil?

I’ve noticed that the other end is well on its way as well.


10 posted on 01/21/2011 7:31:48 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: laotzu

There’s an easy way to find out if the lib congresscritters want an eventual complete takeover of American healthcare: strap all of them to a polygraph, and let’s see the responses. I’d bet the great majority lie awake at nights dreaming of the day when they totally control healthcare from their desks in Washington. It’s the nature of the beast...the liberal beast, that is.


11 posted on 01/21/2011 7:36:04 AM PST by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: laotzu

In honor of Cohen a reminder:

Leftists love hyperbole, and they love accusing their ideological opponents of crimes of humanity for opposing their agenda. However, they have a particular affinity for Hitler/Nazi metaphors. This is not just because Hitler and Nazism were evil and were responsible for the deaths of millions. After all, communism and its practitioners around the globe have been responsible for far more murder, oppression, and miserable living conditions than the relatively small-fry one-off historical atrocity of Nazism.

Leftists love Hitler references because of the meme that Nazism was a “right-wing” ideology.

True, Nazism did have elements of fascism, which has been associated with the ideology of several other 20th-century dictators. But if leftists think they can get away with popularizing the notion that Nazism more closely mirrors contemporary conservatism than leftism, they’d better hope people don’t look too closely at Nazi ideology and start drawing their own conclusions.

The Nazis’ 25-point plan contained such limited-government recommendations as:

“That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished”

“[A]ll personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits”

“We demand the nationalization of all trusts”

“We demand profit-sharing in large industries”

“We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions”

“The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young”

“We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army”

In case it’s not obvious, these planks overlap with 90% of the platform of the modern Democratic Party.

More can be found at: http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/01/21/stuff-leftist-people-like-21-30-aka-top-10-things-leftists-like-continued-1/4/


12 posted on 01/21/2011 7:37:13 AM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: laotzu

So, what is the treatment for foot-in-mouth disease???


13 posted on 01/21/2011 7:55:19 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier preparing to deploy to Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad

I suggest he study his Torah— I believe the part relevant is in what we sometimes call the Decalogue /or Ten Commandmments
found in Exodus 20:16-I may be wrong but I believe there is no significant difference between the Hebrew and the modern English translation from it. Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor (is one translation) I seem to remember a college professor who happened to be Jewish that taught us Never speak in generalities suck talk generally proves you don’t know what you talk of.


14 posted on 01/21/2011 8:04:53 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: laotzu

It’s beyond comprehension how people from the great state of Tennessee can vote for a despicable human being as this guy Cohen to represent them. Davy Parker must be turning over in his grave.


15 posted on 01/21/2011 8:21:31 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: Coldwater Creek

I notice that the ‘green agenda’ is being introduced into East Tennessee Christian schools...all based on the Scriptures; of course...


16 posted on 01/21/2011 8:32:17 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Yipes!


17 posted on 01/21/2011 8:41:55 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: laotzu
Would love to lock this d***head up in a room and make him watch hours and hours of Democrat Nazi-like spew the leaders of his party have uttered.
18 posted on 01/21/2011 8:45:06 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Jared Lee Loughner - Disciple of Michael Moore)
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To: kenmcg
It’s beyond comprehension how people from the great state of Tennessee can vote for a despicable human being as this guy Cohen to represent them. Davy Parker must be turning over in his grave.

His district is 60% black.

19 posted on 01/21/2011 9:38:52 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Coldwater Creek

This fool gave the address at my granddaughters college graduation. His only advice to the grads was to be kind to their pets. And, no I’m not kidding.


Wow.


20 posted on 01/21/2011 5:41:21 PM PST by PaleoBob
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