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To: Biggirl

Isn’t the relative stopping power of a 9mm vs a 45 between 3:1 or 4:1?

Doesn’t this mean you have to 3 bullets in your semi vs 1 in a revolver to equal the required stopping power for one attacker?

If so, this means a mag of 10 is just sufficient for 3 attackers and either you need another mag or an extended mag to ensure that you have the same stopping power of the 45 revolver.

Not an expert, but I believe this was what was explained to me by my local gun expert a few years ago.


8 posted on 01/20/2011 5:17:48 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813
With modern bullet design and powders, the stopping power for a 9mm and a .45ACP are about the same. That being said, I still prefer a .45ACP.

The “one shot stop” capability of either round is less than 100%, this is why you shoot in pairs.

Another rule of gunfighting. If you know handguns will be used, bring a shotgun or rifle. As posted earlier, handguns are more for defense than offense.

10 posted on 01/20/2011 5:23:01 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: dila813
Despite the ammo wars, the first rule of thumb is the ability to hit the target. A miss with a .45 is worse than a good hit with a 9mm.

Take some classes from real experts not gun store commandos.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXVNypPUGto&feature=related

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48

33 posted on 01/20/2011 7:53:34 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: dila813
Despite the ammo wars, the first rule of thumb is the ability to hit the target. A miss with a .45 is worse than a good hit with a 9mm.

Take some classes from real experts not gun store commandos.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXVNypPUGto&feature=related

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48

34 posted on 01/20/2011 7:57:21 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: dila813
Despite the ammo wars, the first rule of thumb is the ability to hit the target. A miss with a .45 is worse than a good hit with a 9mm.

Take some classes from real experts not gun store commandos.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXVNypPUGto&feature=related

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48

35 posted on 01/20/2011 8:10:21 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: dila813

I have sent the following to my congress critters:

There has been a lot of nonsense in the news about banning large magazines for pistols, specifically the 33 round used by the shooter in Tuscon.

I say nonsense because: Suppose we ban them.

Who will obey the law? Certainly not swat teams. Certainly not crazies like the shooter in Tuscon.

It will have no affect at all on the legal concealed carry because there is no way one can carry a 30 round pistol/magazine concealed. If you know anything at all about CCW, the idea of one going to Walmart or McDonald’s or any restaurant with a 30 round magazine under your coat or shirt is ludicrous.

So the only people who under the proposed ban would carry a pistol with a 30 round magazine would be swat teams and crazies, exactly the same people who would carry them under th present laws.

But why should anyone have a 30 plus round magazine in his pistol?

The statistics show that cops in the middle of their shift, wide awake, miss 85% of the time.

So a person who is awakened from a deep sleep in the wee hours, vision blurred, heart beating 150 beats per minute, is probably going to miss even more..

Suppose there are two intruders, as is often the case, and the home owner hits only 15%.

30 rounds x 15% = 4.5 hits. The homeowner will be lucky to get that.

A 10 round mag would give the homeowner 1.5 hits. Not good enough.

So a pistol with a 30 round mag is made for the under the bed home defense gun.


36 posted on 01/20/2011 8:28:12 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: dila813

You mean 45 ACP or 45 Colt? If you mean 45 ACP vs. 9x19 (Luger/Para), the 9 is less powerful, but not so much less as to be a ridiculous choice for self defense. Certainly not three times or four times less. And I don’t get the revolver vs. auto comparison, as the 45 ACP and 9mm Para are both typically auto rounds. Maybe you meant 45 Colt, but that’s not the round most people use as a defensive round in a revolver either. I can’t follow your reasoning.


41 posted on 01/21/2011 3:20:15 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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