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Hawaii governor hasn't found Obama's birth certificate yet
American Thinker ^ | 1/19/2011 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 01/19/2011 11:38:54 AM PST by jdoug666

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To: jdoug666

Thanks for posting. Appreciate your effort.


21 posted on 01/19/2011 11:59:04 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: jdoug666

From the article

Governor Lingle misrepresents Dr. Fukino’s statement here. That also caused much controversy, and would seem to indicate she has seen the long form, which would record the place of birth. The two versions of the Certificate of Live Birth (which can be issued on the basis of a statement to authorities, and which does not even mean that a birth necessarily took place in Hawaii) which have been published do not contain anty information on the place of birth.

Has Governor Abercrombie asked his predecessor for help in finding the document?

In the words of Lewis Carroll, it gets curiouser and curiouser.


BTW

It’s a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth that has been shown via JPEG,

NOT a Certificate of LB i.e. a Birth Certificate.

(the article is mistaken)


Also

Correct me if I am wrong

A CERTIFICATION is what is used for foreigners and delayed births in Hawaii when a Certificate was not available ...


22 posted on 01/20/2011 12:36:44 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: jdoug666

I thought it might be news to you all that the morning of 1/19 at around 6:30 am radio host John Gambling, a total anti BC guy brought up this story and said, “what should we think now?”, I said to myself, that it is about time.


23 posted on 01/20/2011 1:23:31 AM PST by rambo316 (Rush is Right)
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To: rambo316; jdoug666; LucyT; rxsid; null and void; Red Steel
I thought it might be news to you all that the morning of 1/19 at around 6:30 am radio host John Gambling, a total anti BC guy brought up this story and said, “what should we think now?”, I said to myself, that it is about time.

Well, I'll tell you what it means.

Things are reaching the saturation point in the public consciousness.

Very soon all will be asking the same question.

24 posted on 01/20/2011 1:34:56 AM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

It’s like a fat intern that just wont go away.


25 posted on 01/20/2011 4:18:34 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Hotlanta Mike
I think a way to get Obama .... review all births of boys born in Hawaii for the three months prior to his birth. Track them down. You will find one of them does not exist, has vanished into thin air.

Some kid was born to a black woman prior to Obamas birthday.
That kid went to the Dunham home for a few weeks and was then shipped out of town. That kid, now known as Obama, was given a new name and birthday when Granny called up the state and phoned in the birth.

Granny couldn't keep him, her husbands love child, so Ann Dunham, his sister, took him to another state to raise him with her mothers friend.

I think Obama is in the Hawaiian books Under another name and birth date. His Mothers name.

26 posted on 01/20/2011 4:30:31 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER
Obama once gave a speech and said his father fought in WWII. I am convinced his father is Stan Dunham.

People can convince themselves to see things that aren't there. A friend of my wife joked with her, said she had a baby. Showed pictures of her holding the baby with her husband. My wife replied that the baby looked like her husband. It turned out that it was her grand daughter, and had no blood relation to her husband.

We all keep trying to convince ourselves that Obama Sr. is his dad. He's not.

27 posted on 01/20/2011 4:50:18 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER
That has been my suspicion
28 posted on 01/20/2011 5:30:37 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Red Steel

RS, in absence of any tangible BC that can be presented to him by the DOH, Abercrombie only needs to consult with 2 people who played the key role in Obama being able to get on the ballot in HI in 2008 in the first place. They are Brian Schatz, Former DPH Chair now serving as Hawaii’s Lt. Governor under Gov. Neil Abercrombie (2010), and Kevin Cronin, former Hawaiian Elections Officer.

I am sure they have the tangible evidence that Abercrombie wants to provide to the American public for the sake of disclosure.

Pen Johannson has some update info at his blogsite

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/

SUMMARY

A comparison of the DNC’s OCON sent to Hawaii with the OCONs sent to every other state reveals a conspiracy to conceal Obama’s ineligibility. Notice the statement added to the Hawaiian document in order to make it compliant with HRS 11-113(c)(1)(B), after it was discovered the DEMOCRAT PARTY OF HAWAII refused to include the legally required language enabling Hawaii’s Chief Elections Officer to approve of Obama’s inclusion on the Hawaiian Presidential Ballot.

Hawaii Revised Statute HRS 11-113 (d) and (e), in collaboration with HRS 91, 92 and 3-170 creates a series of deadlines which enabled Obama with an opportunity to appear in Hawaii almost 45 days after the OCON controversy occurred, but on the exact day prior to the final deadline for inclusion on the Hawaiian presidential ballot. This time line was critical in creating the appearance that Obama’s only reason for visiting Hawaii more than three times in 4 months was for personal reasons.

Obama’s time in Hawaii from the afternoon of October 23rd through October 24th remains largely unnaccounted for, except for the brief time he spent with his sick grandmother.
Any conflict among party authorities over candidate eligibility allows the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer the autonomous choice whether or not to include the candidate on the ballot anyway, per HRS 11-113(b), which Cronin did, regardless if that candidate is proven eligible or not. Cronin is not obligated to verify eligibility per HRS 11-113.
This indicates a crime. If the original OCON had contained the amended statement prior to being signed, it would have been left in the body of the statement for ALL the OCONs received by all the states. There is no rational motive for the DNC to omit this statement post-signing because it only reinforces allegations by Obama and the DNC that he is eligible in every state. Which he is not, at least we know, in Hawaii. The fact that it only appears in Hawaii’s OCON indicates a cover-up.
The lack of a “RECEIVED DATE” stamp on the DNC’s Hawaiian OCON, which is present on other state’s version, also prevents an accurate determination of the latest possible date on which Cronin was able to schedule a CONTEST HEARING with Obama after finding Obama uncertified by the DPH. Obama would not have wanted to give the appearance of dealing with an ineligibility issue so close to the election, but he also would not want to allow anyone to know their was a legal problem with his inclusion on the ballot so near the date when Hawaii received the Certifications of Nomination there. Cronin was permitted to record his receipt of the OCON as late as Sept. 5, 2008, 60 days prior to the election, which would have allowed the hearing to begin sometime between October 10, 2008 and October 24, 2008, after exhausting the legally permitted time and personal allowances in the process for scheduling according to HRS 11-113(d) and (e).
Obama cancelled several campaign appointments, just weeks before the election, and suddenly traveled to Hawaii on October 23, 2008 without his family, to visit his ill grandmother.

HRS 92-5-8 affords the Hawaiian Elections Commission the permission to conduct private meetings with candidates when information contained in vital records protected under HRS 338-18 is to be considered.

Madelyn Dunham’s death was reported on November 3rd, 2008. It allegedly occurred at about 3:00 a.m. on November 2nd. No official medical documents, death certificate or coronor’s report of her passing has ever been publicly revealed..

This documented evidence, in coordination with actions by the Democrat party’s authorities and the actions of the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer in coordination with the provisions of Hawaiian election law and Obama’s behavior, in coordination with the events of the campaign, his personal life, and his lack of constitutional eligibility to be president all leave little doubt that the election of Obama occurred extralegally and outside the limits of constitutional legitimacy making him, at least, an unconstitutional president and, at most, an enemy usurper of American sovereignty.

By undermining the provisions of the constitution, Barack Obama has injured the American people by illegally circumventing their right to the protections against domestic threats and ineligible usurpation of their sovereign liberties, which include the right of trust and confidence in those presenting themselves as legitimate candidates for government office.

The fact that very specific, and rational questions remain unanswered about Obama’s past, including the actions by officials working within the government agencies of the State of Hawaii, reveals nothing less than a web of legally knitted deception in order to conceal the obviousness of Barack Obama complete lack of Constitutional standing to be President of the United States. As such, Obama’s entire Presidency has been built on an epic lie of such grand proportions no remedy remains except that which can only come from the common-men and descendants of our vintage American founders.


29 posted on 01/20/2011 6:13:45 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: PA-RIVER

We all keep trying to convince ourselves that Obama Sr. is his dad. He’s not.


We all suspect that. There is no genetic connection with Barack Obama and Barry Dunham at all (height, build, features). This life narrative is a complete fabrication, and we are being manipulated and ignored by our representives, the courts and the media to accept this big lie.

Soon The Boston Globe and The National Enquirer will be trusted more than the NYT and WP and the LSM.


30 posted on 01/20/2011 6:19:53 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: thecodont

Well, I’ll tell you what it means.

Things are reaching the saturation point in the public consciousness.

Very soon all will be asking the same question.


It means that the lack of disclosure on the part of Obama (if that is his legal name) plus the all the legal challenges being denied purely on issues of “standing” and “no proof of direct injury” instead of being heard on the merits is further raising the public consciousness that something is amiss here. Something does not seem quite right.

And with the investigations made by a number of bloggers into how it is that Obama made it onto the ballots of the various states in 2008 has led to at least 2 states in particular where a crime has been committed, Hawaii and Arizona (apparently allowed Obama to self-attest to the fact that he was constitutionally qualified for the office).

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/

And recall that fundraising letter issued by Kapi’olani Hospital. Abercrombie and Obama were both involved in the issuance of this letter for purposes of raising money. Let’s speculate that Obama was not born there. This is fraud. More information on this available at Miss Tickly’s blogsite.

http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/pleading-for-answers/

And I have a few parting queries - (1) How did Obama manage to obtain a US passport? (2) Was it when he became a United States Senator? (3) Was this passport fraudulently obtained? (4) Was this passport used tas a corroborating document in 2006 when Obama allegedly amended his BC in Hawaii?


31 posted on 01/20/2011 6:34:41 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Some have also speculated that Anne Dunham is in fact the mother - but that Frank Marshall Davis is the father.


32 posted on 01/20/2011 6:44:00 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842
Some have also speculated that Anne Dunham is in fact the mother - but that Frank Marshall Davis is the father.

Possible. That would make him, without a doubt, a natural born citizen, then.

33 posted on 01/20/2011 6:46:51 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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To: NeoCaveman

Absolutely - a natural born citizen, and also an indisputable LIAR of the first order.

The media would find a way to cover for him, though, and make him the victim.


34 posted on 01/20/2011 6:51:29 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842

They’d say he never knew of the fraud.

Despite the fact the he mentions his BC in one of his books.


35 posted on 01/20/2011 6:54:40 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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To: NeoCaveman

Oh, right, like he actually wrote the book...


36 posted on 01/20/2011 7:23:05 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 730 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

I didn’t say he wrote his two books.


37 posted on 01/20/2011 7:24:10 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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To: null and void; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; ...

ping

(see post #24)


38 posted on 01/20/2011 7:26:18 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 730 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: cvq3842

The “Linglering” Questions

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/the-linglering-questions/#comment-1284

“Ask yourself this question.

What would have happened if the former Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle (R) had addressed the issue of obama’s long form birth certificate by stating, in no uncertain terms, the following:

“It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the [State] archives, written down,”

But Linda Lingle never said this, because if she had, all hell would have broken loose. It would have fed into the Birther narrative that something is amiss with the long form birth certificate. One reason is because that statement refers to the record being in the State Archives. Not in the Dept. of Health.”


39 posted on 01/20/2011 7:27:22 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: PA-RIVER
It’s like a fat intern that just wont go away

HA! Good one!

Seriously, this won't be resolved either way prior to the 2012 elections,
so the best path for all would be to urge your state legislature and SoS to require proof of eligibility to get on the state's ballot for 2012.

Barky will bow(wow) out with an excuse rather than run.

40 posted on 01/20/2011 7:31:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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