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Video Shows Arizona Shootings in Detail, Sources Tell Newspaper
ABAJournal ^ | 1/18/11 | Martha Neil

Posted on 01/18/2011 7:47:58 PM PST by redk

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To: OneWingedShark

Agreed.

The most dangerous part, IMHO, is if we as a society have decided that reality can’t ever be scary - that if something scary comes to mind it must be just a crazy theory. The epistemology is that it doesn’t matter if everything added together comes to a million, since a million is just too big. If you add everything together and it comes to a million you must be a crazy conspiracy theorist because the result is never a million; it’s always a hundred at the most.

Once you’ve got that epistemology you can’t even reason and deduce because your epistemology doesn’t allow you the full realm of reality.

That’s why we could have the WTC bombing, USS Cole, etc and still never imagine 9-11. Now that 9-11 is past we’re STILL thinking that people and governments are incapable of doing really bad things. We write off any evidence of disturbing things as just being from kooks (which is especially difficult since the whole method of mind control is to make the person APPEAR to be a kook).

It’s like turning off all the nation’s security sensors and then feeling very safe because none of the warnings we would have received would have been accurate anyway.

I have no way of knowing what stories of mind control are real and which are not. And that’s the scary part, because those who DO know are hiding behind “security” reasons to not tell us what’s true.

These ARE scary times, and most of all because we have no idea who to trust. Our government mocks us if we want evidence that they even are who they say they are. Violating our trust is nothing to them - less than a sneeze on the Richter scale. That is what is breaking our economy, and it threatens to break our whole society.

Just a couple days ago my husband and I were just talking with our kids about the clicking when you tune an instrument. My husband was a music teacher before becoming a pastor and says those are actually called beats.

When I read about the ability to make something invisible, I realized that all our perceptions can probably be manipulated. George Orwell may well have been a prophet in his own way.


61 posted on 01/20/2011 5:25:58 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

33% is a bit high but I don’t have details of how and where the others were hit. I think a lot of them were multiple hits.

Statistically, 33% would be at least 2 standard deviations out so I think it is a fluke but he was up close and just popping unarmed victims. If you pick your shot then the lethality goes way up.


62 posted on 01/21/2011 2:38:48 PM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: TxDas

These are the hits we know of, according to the LE report:

The wounded:
Pamela Simon - shot twice
Mavy Stoddard - shot in leg 3 times
George Morris - shot twice (once in lung)
Randy Gardner - shot in foot
James Eric Fuller - shot in knee and back
Bill Badger - bullet glanced off of skull
Ronald Barber - hit in leg and cheek
Susan Hileman - shot 3 times (once in hip)
Mary Reed - shot 3 times (back and once in each arm)
Kenneth Dorushka - shot in arm (on ground)
Kenneth Veeder - leg grazed by bullet
Gabby Giffords - shot once in head

The killed (only know the location of Judge Roll’s bullet):
Dorwan Stoddard - killed while on ground protecting wife
Dorothy Morris - killed (thrown to ground to protect?)
Phyllis Scheck - killed
John Roll - killed by shot in aorta
9-year-old - killed
Gabe Zimmerman - killed


63 posted on 01/21/2011 3:09:13 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks, that accounts for 28 rds if the killed were only shot once. So I suspect a couple of the killed were shot more than once or many of the hits were pass through shots and most, if not almost all, were hit more than once. The chance of a lethal shot goes up greatly with each addition hit.

It would be of interest what ammo he used.


64 posted on 01/23/2011 10:15:24 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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