“Athiest and saved both agree that they dont want to be murdered or be the victim of theft.”
I disagree.
There are many atheists and others, some may actually claim to be saved, who actually kill and steal, so, there are truly plenty of people who would not mind if murder and/or theft were legal or unpunished.
I don’t think I have a trite argument. My argument is: you can’t arbitrarily decide what religious beliefs can be codified into law, and what can’t.
Because your arbitrary decision are different than mine are different from Ted Bundy are different from the imam are different from Charles Manson are different from my grandma.
I could certainly support a law against cross dressing. I am sure a good majority if not a plurality of Americans would support it. Is it majority rule? Or, if not, what then is our standard?
“There are many atheists and others, some may actually claim to be saved, who actually kill and steal, so, there are truly plenty of people who would not mind if murder and/or theft were legal or unpunished.”
You miss the point entirely. Homicide is illegal because of the people who do not want ***their*** right to life violated via murder, by others, NOT because everybody agrees that you shouldn’t murder.
YOUR point that there are some people who would love to steal and murder, is why we have a law. To protect the people who want to be protected from them.
You certainly can arbitrarily do it. The answer is this,, we do not codify religious belief into law. For example, you do not outlaw eating meat of friday, etc. Law is centered around the individual and their god given rights to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Rights involve what you are free to do without harming others. A miniskirt harms nobody.
“Is it majority rule? Or, if not, what then is our standard?”
NO, it isn’t majority rule, it is a constitutional republic. The standard is, does it pick your pocket or break your bone? If not, freedom is the default. No society needs the preachers often good ideas to have force of law. I have yet to have you articulate why it should be a law to make women dress to the standard of the most modest people here. Thats the taliban way.
Thats the operating system called “Europe 1.0”