Cold Fusion getting hot with 10kw heater prepping for market

Pure Energy Systems News ^ | 1-17-2011 | Sterling D. Allan

[PapaBear3625]

“Cold Fusion” is in and of itself, a violation of the laws of physics. Heat is a byproduct of fusion. “Cold fusion” implies the absence of heart from fusion, which is a violation of Physics.

No, it is not a violation. The "Cold" in Cold Fusion simply refers to the reaction happening at water temperatures rather than in a million-degree plasma. A reaction which heats water to above boiling temperature is still called "cold fusion" but can be used to generate power.

Now, whether "cold fusion" actually can be made to work is another story.

[marktwain]

“Bad news if it is true. All the stock holders in the fuel related market aren’t going to like it. There are billions of dollars hanging in the balance, and it will be easier to buyout the patent rights so it will never hit the consumer market. Just think how much oil consumption will be reduced, and how the price of oil will drop. All the oil producers aren’t going to be happy, including the USA.”

If they would buy out the patent rights, then they could make a lot more money by producing the device and selling the power than they do with oil. In addition, oil will always be needed for chemical feedstocks to make plastic, fertilizer, lubrication, etc.

[UCANSEE2]

If a guy had a way to maneuver a ship (change orbit) around the Earth dragging a giant net, one could become rich in recycled space junk. You wouldn’t believe how much junk there is floating around our planet.

[mlo]

"Imagine what would happen if we poured a trillion dollars into cold fusion?"

We'd be out a trillion dollars?

I think being real ought to be a first requirement.

[Coldwater Creek]

Please ignore my post #59. My mouse has a hair trigger. I thought that I was on the previous thread.

[Larry Lucido]

So does this. :-)

[kidd]

There are lots of garbage statements in the article, which is probably attributable to the reporting, not the lab experiment.

For example, hydrogen feedstock takes a substantial quantity of energy to create. Natural hydrogen contains 0.17% deuterium. The article claims that the hydrogn must be free of deuterium...this would take an even more substantial quantity of energy to achieve.

Also fusion produces neutrons...besides being rather difficult to monitor/measure, lead sheilding does almost nothing to stop neutron radiation (as the article claims).

I’m guessing that they are fishing for investors, not commercial orders.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Ok, so they claim they get 30,000 BTU out of 400 watts of power. Here again is a complete line of B.S. You failed to consider Resistance, Voltage and several other factors that determine the amount of heat electricity can produce. That always varies and is completely dependent on those other factors.

Your “math” is quite “fuzzy”!( At a ratio of 400 to 1.)

[UCANSEE2]

Ben Franklin kepts some of his inventions for his own profit and others he gave freely for the greater good of mankind.

Never heard of Ben Franklin selling any chickens.

[Ditto]

Paul Ehrlich (an eco-weenie)

Make that eco-commie.

[UCANSEE2]

A trillion is a BIG number.

Prove it. Send me a trillion dollars so I can see for myself.

[UCANSEE2]

Where’s the electrical cord?

400 watts, it must go really fast.

[PapaBear3625]

It doesn’t produce electricity, it produces heat. 400 watts constant input to produce (and here’s the ? part) 15000 (potential/maximum/then it blows up) watts of HEAT. I didn’t know heat was measured in watts.

Energy is measured in watts, joules, and many other units of measurement. Most power plants work by generating heat (whether by nuke, coal, or whatever), using that heat to boil water into steam which then turns a turbine which drives a generator.

If this thing can generate enough heat to create steam, then it can create electricity. If the output water temp is limited, it can still be used to heat buildings in the winter.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

You are still talking about a chemical reaction, not fusion at an atomic level. “Cold fusion” is a misnomer in that respect.

[fabian]

Good news! You have it all wrong! Do you know how much of Americans and the world’s productive wages go to the middle eastern and other oil companies? Most all of that dough will go towards other parts of the economy and their own savings accounts! That equals huge boosts in the world economies! We are being dragged down by the constantly fluctuating gas prices

[wendy1946]

There are a half dozen to a dozen things which ought to be on a war footing at this point, and this just adds one more item to the list. The list includes two super new IC engines (angellabs and ecomotors on the web), thorium reactors, supercapacitors, the oil from algae idea, and simply drilling oil available to us.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Thanks for the technical breakdown. You nailed it! These scammers are fishing for “investors”, not commercial orders. Because they have every intention of soaking these “believers” for every dime they can, while they can.

[CommerceComet]

Imagine what would happen if we poured a trillion dollars into cold fusion?

Why waste money in an exotic way when we could waste it building a bunch of windmills?

All joking aside, I'd agree with you to some degree if there seemed to be any solid science supporting cold fusion. Based on comments that my physicist friends have told me, cold fusion is a dream on the order of a perpetual motion machine.

[eastforker]

I am always amazed when people say something is impossible because of theory.30 years ago it would have been deemed impossible to have communication devices many of us have today, including computers and the internet.100 years ago space travel was thought to be impossible yet 50 years later we achieved it and so it goes.Necessity is the mother of invention.

[KarlInOhio]

If it is turning nickel (atomic number 28) into copper (atomic number 29), then a nuclear reaction is taking place. I would like to see more on the distribution of nickel and copper isotopes in the original material and the distribution of isotopes in the resulting copper to find if one isotope is partiuclarly useful for this. Finding an excess of copper makes this very, very interesting.