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To: BigReb555

Robert E. Lee is no hero. Like Jefferson Davis, Lee is a traitor to the United States of America. Period!


4 posted on 01/15/2011 2:32:24 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

Suck it.


5 posted on 01/15/2011 2:34:58 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Reagan Man

Best read of the year:

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7 posted on 01/15/2011 2:36:36 PM PST by golux
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To: Reagan Man

I would have liked to have seen you say that to US Grant. Or Sherman for that matter. You would have got a swat across the backside of your head for the reward from them.


10 posted on 01/15/2011 2:40:36 PM PST by crz
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To: Reagan Man

If Abe Lincoln was half the man and statesman he gets credit for, there wouldn’t have been a war, (The War of Northern Aggression) and 625,000 men would not have lost their lives destroying one another and half of America.


11 posted on 01/15/2011 2:42:42 PM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: Reagan Man

If Robert E. Lee was a traitor, then so was George Washington.

My friend, George Washington and Robert E. Lee both fought for freedom and were great Americans.

We should remember all our American History!


12 posted on 01/15/2011 2:42:45 PM PST by BigReb555
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To: Reagan Man

Most idiotic posts I have ever seen here.


13 posted on 01/15/2011 2:43:11 PM PST by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (High time to bring back the sons (and daughters) of liberty!!!! SP4P2012)
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To: Reagan Man

A Traitor?......really??? If that was the case.....why wasn’t he hanged as such?

I believe it is probably because the Federal government had way overstepped it’s bounds by using such force to bring the Union back together and it knew it. The overreach would not have stood up to Constitutional scrutiny.

It was a terrible time in our country’s history for sure.....but I believe Slavery was on it’s way out just due to our country’s inevitable progression,

Robert E. Lee was a man who loved his country as it had been originally founded.....much like Patriots of today....

Just my opinion of course.....

BTW.....I am a Northerner...with at least 2 forbears fighting for the Union.....


16 posted on 01/15/2011 2:44:41 PM PST by freedombird (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness. -A. DeTocqueville)
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To: Reagan Man

Lee was a loyal patriot of his native state of Virginia. In those days, loyalty to your state held primacy over that towards the Federal Union, which was supposed to serve the interests of the states, not the other way around...


17 posted on 01/15/2011 2:45:40 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Reagan Man

Don’t make me go all zombie on your ass.


19 posted on 01/15/2011 2:46:03 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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That is all a matter of perspective. If we (in the South) can get over the war... and we certainly have... so can you. We are all Americans today... and a subset of Americans called Conservatives. Those are the facts.

LLS


23 posted on 01/15/2011 2:55:13 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: Reagan Man

Bs and double damn Bs.


30 posted on 01/15/2011 3:12:47 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Reagan Man
Robert E. Lee is no hero. Like Jefferson Davis, Lee is a traitor to the United States of America. Period!

Just FYI...Davis, Lee, and other high-level Confederate officials were not tried because the U.S. government was very much afraid that its courts would rule secession completely legal and constitutional. To this day, the courts have NEVER ruled on the legality of secession.

45 posted on 01/15/2011 3:32:58 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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When commissioned as an officer upon graduation from West Point, Lee took an oath to “preserve, protect, and defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic” and to “obey the lawful orders of those appointed above me”.

My understanding is that the was required to take the same oath upon each promotion. If that's the case, then as a full Colonel in the U.S. Army, Lee would have taken that oath seven times, by my count.

I'm unaware of any oath that Lee took to preserve, protect, and defend Virginia, although times were different and the concept of federalism was stronger before the War Between the States. Nothing in the officer's oath said "of course, this oath is trumped by allegiance to an individual state."

Lee resigned his commission before taking up arms against the United States. I don't understand how that released him completely from his oath to the United States. A first- or second-generation German immigrant who graduated from West Point would certainly be considered a traitor if he had resigned his commission and accepted one to fight for Germany in WWI or WWII.

The Constitution of the United States defines as a treasonable offense any “act of war” against the United States or any “aid and comfort” given to enemies of the United States. Construing the acts of the Confederate States of America against the Union as something other than an 'act of war' or as constituting the acts of an 'enemy' require some rationalization.

One would have to believe that loyalty to state automatically trumped the officer's oath, although that prior loyalty was unspoken. Or that, by resigning a commission, the oath becomes null and void. Or that Virginia's secession somehow made the officer's oath irrelevant.

Lee was by virtually all accounts a gentleman. It requires more rationalization and perhaps some sophistry to say he was other than a traitor. He may have been a man of his word when it came to personal dealings, but when he took perhaps the most solemn oath he ever took, he was not a man of his word.

I'll be flamed for this, I'm certain.

If George Washington took a similar oath to protect and defend King George, then he was a traitor, too.

48 posted on 01/15/2011 3:37:55 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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oh boy....behold the man on a pale white horse...


57 posted on 01/15/2011 4:05:27 PM PST by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: Reagan Man

“Robert E. Lee is no hero. Like Jefferson Davis, Lee is a traitor to the United States of America. Period!”

That smack to the back of your head was your screen namesake Ronald Reagan reaching out of the grave to try and knock some sense into you.

Lee, like Reagan, was one of the finest Americans this country ever produced, he lived and fought with honor and dignity. The enduring respect his legacy engenders is something you should be in awe of, not ignorant of.


58 posted on 01/15/2011 4:09:03 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Reagan Man
Traitor is a very strong word. I believe when a person uses it they should be required to justify its use.

What say you Sir?

67 posted on 01/15/2011 4:30:41 PM PST by patriotUSA (Thank you Jesus.)
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Dude, what’s happening?
Can’t you at least try to be “civil”?


68 posted on 01/15/2011 4:32:25 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Reagan Man; Rebelbase

I have meaner things to say to little Ronnie Jr., but they start with drop d....


77 posted on 01/15/2011 5:04:54 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (RIP Royal Marshall, you ran the good race.)
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To: Reagan Man

“Robert E. Lee is no hero. Like Jefferson Davis, Lee is a traitor to the United States of America. Period!”

So is everyone who voted for obuma. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are traitors, as is Robert Byrd, Teddy Kennedy and DEMOCRAT Woodrow “KKK” Wilson.


83 posted on 01/15/2011 5:54:44 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Reagan Man

It’s sad there are people so deluded as you who call themselves “conservative.”


86 posted on 01/15/2011 6:04:31 PM PST by patriot preacher
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