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Obama Fails to Win Over Partisans
WSJ Washington Wire ^ | 1/14/2011 | Jonathan Weisman

Posted on 01/15/2011 7:10:06 AM PST by chickadee

For all the accolades President Barack Obama has won for his call to end the blame game and restore civility, there is one audience he has failed to win over: the ones pointing the fingers.

Partisans on the left and the right continued Friday to say it is right to call the other side to account. They said Mr. Obama’s speech in Tucson Wednesday night amounted to a ducking of tough choices, not a heroic embrace of ambiguity.

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“The call for toning down the ‘heated political rhetoric’ is a convenient scheme by the permanently intemperate and propaganda dependent political left,” Mr. Breitbart said in an email to Washington Wire. “Once this heinous and uncivil strategy of blaming Sarah Palin and the Tea Party for Jared Loughner’s act imploded, there were not only no apologies from drawing these false conclusions, the perpetrators outrageously doubled down on a more generic yet equally cynical strategy to stop heated political rhetoric.”

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giffords; partisans; rhetoric; tucson
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Mr. Breitbart sure has a way with words.
1 posted on 01/15/2011 7:10:08 AM PST by chickadee
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To: chickadee

Its true, I feel NO love for them and will not falter in my opposition. NO sitting together at the SOTU!!!! Please, lol


2 posted on 01/15/2011 7:12:37 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: chickadee
In a way, this event mirrors the larger gun debate.

Liberals don't believe in the right of guns for self-defense. Conservatives do.

And Liberals don't believe in the right of heated rhetoric for political self-defense. Conservatives are left little choice. Something this pundit misses.

We didn't start this fight. We're finishing it.

3 posted on 01/15/2011 7:15:11 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: chickadee

Obama’s speech in Tucson Wednesday night was “a campaign speech given while standing on six coffins.”


4 posted on 01/15/2011 7:15:57 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: GoCards

It’s like when we were kids and our brother/sister would keep pinching us or punching us when our parents’ heads were turned. When we finally struck back, the parent reprimands us and tells us to “shake hands”. We know the brother/sister is going to pinch/punch us again as soon as mom/dad’s attention is elsewhere. In that scenario, mom and dad don’t know what is going on. In this one, “Dad” does know and likes the way things are going and is winking at our bullying brother/sister.


5 posted on 01/15/2011 7:19:31 AM PST by chickadee
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To: chickadee

Yep. Kind of like the older brother in “Home Alone.” UGH


6 posted on 01/15/2011 7:23:02 AM PST by truthkeeper ( God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy.)
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To: dirtboy

*** “And Liberals don’t believe in the right of heated rhetoric . . .”

Oh, they believe in the right - but want to reserve it for themselves.

This whole scenario reminds one of the old joke where they bury a man up to his neck in sand in the center of an arena and then set a hungry lion loose on him. As the lion rushes toward the man, he tilts back his head and bites the lion in the lion’s private place. Meanwhile, the crowd is yelling at the man, “fight fair”.


7 posted on 01/15/2011 7:23:44 AM PST by chickadee
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To: BenLurkin
Have we seen a poll yet on his speech at the rally? Hmmm???? From all accounts it was magnificent and a stunning display from our most intellectual president ever.
8 posted on 01/15/2011 7:33:10 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: chickadee

ONLY when the Dems are not the majority do they call for the “moderation” or “civility”.

The same POS p-Resident who told Republicans to their faces “I WON” the 3rd day he was in office when the GOP asked for “bi-partisanship”.


9 posted on 01/15/2011 7:43:38 AM PST by max americana
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To: BenLurkin

The bot can’t get out of the campaign mode.


10 posted on 01/15/2011 7:49:07 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: chickadee

Why should we want to even pretend to make nice with a bunch of soulless ghouls who immediately jumped on the dead and dying to push an agenda.

That “Pep Rally” memorial service complete with souvenir tee shirts with the logo “Together We Thrive” didn’t help persuade us sane and rational people that what their party did was just a misunderstanding.


11 posted on 01/15/2011 7:50:45 AM PST by CajunConservative (0, we'll stop treating you like a dog, when you stop treating us like a hydrant.)
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I can understand Boehner et all grudgingly agreeing to the kindergarten move of “sitting together” at the SOTU. To do otherwise would just prolong the “incivility” discussion. Once past the SOTU, “full steam ahead” (I hope that rhetoric wasn’t too heated for polite discussion.)


12 posted on 01/15/2011 7:57:56 AM PST by chickadee
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13 posted on 01/15/2011 8:05:38 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Hotlanta, Would that be the home of the Atlanta Falcons? Allow me introduce Clay Matthews
14 posted on 01/15/2011 8:14:55 AM PST by chickadee
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To: dirtboy
Amen, Dirtboy!

I got into it with a few progressive friends on Facebook; took the argument right to them and didn't back down. I warned them this would be their next Wellstone Moment and that they would OWN the ugly aftermath of this disaster.

15 posted on 01/15/2011 8:21:17 AM PST by TheWriterTX (Buy Ammo Often)
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To: chickadee
Partisans don't change much. They can be energized to provide extra effort, or suppressed into inaction, but they rarely change sides. Obama's target is the mushy middle, and he's coopting "partisans" from BOTH sides in the effort.

It's not a new strategy - to encourage lawlessness, enmity and that overused word vitriol. If they can evoke a similar amount of hate and vitriol from the other side, that only increases the effect.

While the monkeys (and the invective) fly, it's Obama's job to stay above the fray and call for calm and rationality. It's so Presidential, ya know? It appeals to that segment of society that's really not sure what's going on, but knows there's trouble. There's chaos, dissention, loud voices and violence everywhere, and they're looking for that calm, authoritative voice of order and reason. These people are the majority of the electorate, and they're looking for leadership, unlike the "partisans" who've already made up their minds for 2012.

And that, IMHO, is what the speech was all about.

16 posted on 01/15/2011 10:01:34 AM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: chickadee
Interesting phrase: "not a heroic embrace of ambiguity". What kind of person sees anything heroic in ambiguity? Even ObamaGirl must be looking at the pathetic loser who is governing our country and wondering what she ever saw in the usurper.


17 posted on 01/15/2011 10:12:39 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: chickadee

Yes, those are two beautifully crafted sentences, aren’t they? There is not a single word wasted.


18 posted on 01/15/2011 10:14:57 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: GoCards
Those accounts were largely written before the speech was even given.
19 posted on 01/15/2011 10:43:09 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: ZOOKER

*** And that, IMHO, is what the speech was all about. ***

And you are 100% correct.


20 posted on 01/15/2011 10:47:24 AM PST by chickadee
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