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To: Blueflag; muawiyah; kristinn; Doogle; silverleaf; John W; Huebolt; worst-case scenario
Wow. What a bunch of hooey.

1) E-Glycol is flammable under certain conditions, but is NOT explosive. It is a slow burnning thing, with a lot of smoke, NOT raging flames.

2) She was BACKING OUT of the garage, so “puncturing the radiator by rolling INTO a workbench” is highly implausible.

3) The halogen bulb in a BMW X-5 sits in a sealed assembly behind a thick focusing lens. The assembly and the lens shield it from anything.

IMHO the radiator was punctured by an explosive device (specifically a firebomb) that went off in front of the car as the car was slowing moving out of the garage.

More than 30 days have passed and the autopsy is pending? Riiiiggghhhtttt.

Thank you BF for posting the link to the Fox article.

87 posted on 02/09/2011 6:19:18 AM PST by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Gabrial
Or, she pulls into the garage, hits the workbench, and the punctured radiator begins drip drip drip ~ later, she goes back out to her car to go to work, hops in, the lights turn on and we have an electrical detonation ~ but there was no explosion. CR*P inside your garage just looks like that after a fire and the Fire Department mess everything up.

I think all we need here is a better rendition of the ATF report where every question was answered, and every answer questioned.

89 posted on 02/09/2011 7:10:54 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Gabrial

Actually I seriously doubt foul play.

I *personally* doubt there was a firebomb. If for no other reason than the car (and structure) was not consumed by fire, and neither was the structure. From the looks of things, the structure was not much involved in the fire. IOW, The pic (small as it was) didn’t look like the result of an explosion and fire. IMHO. [Also, incendiary devices ALWAYS leave evidence behind. Always]

Go with the simplest explanation — the woman was incapacitated (aneurism, alcohol, other) and ‘drove’ (meaning it rolled on its own) her car into the side of the structure of the garage. It idled there in gear for a long time until something in the garage ignited, probably a leaking flammable fluid (coming from a container in the garage).

Since the lower rear of the car was not charred or even soot covered in the photo, one could reasonably conclude the fire did not start or propagate there. If you look closely the headrests in the rear seats are not even melted/blackened, but the glass is broken out — likely something the firefighters did to ascertain how MANY people were in the car when they found it (dark garage/ tinted windows/ no interior lights).

It’s a weird one. WHY would a coherent adult stay in a car ‘on fire’? It doesn’t LOOK at all like a suicide. (again IMHO) I’ll stick with the scenario of an incapacitated driver whose car had a low-speed, minimal impact collision with a structure and its contents, and SOMEHOW a fire ensued.

NET: she was dead, dying or otherwise incapacitated with the car in gear. A NON-PENDING autopsy and COD would be VERY revealing.


90 posted on 02/09/2011 7:14:14 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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