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Buzz Builds for Kel-Tec KSG 12ga Twin-Tube Bullpup Shotgun
The Truth About Guns ^ | 12 January, 2011 | Robert Farago

Posted on 01/14/2011 5:08:26 AM PST by marktwain

TTAG loved it some Kel-Tech Sub-2000. Capt. John Raguso reckoned it was a far better choice for home defense than a shotgun: less recoil, more bullets, wieldy as a pen knife, foldable for bug-out duty, accurate, cheap, lovely! Throw in some frangible ammo to eliminate that pesky over-penetration problem and Bob’s your uncle. I’m getting one in 9mm, which may force me to switch from a Springfield XD-M to a Glock 19 (yes one of those), ’cause the Sub-2000 takes Glock mags. Anyway, the Sub-2000′s a hit. Not a runaway success, but a solid hit. But this, THIS is monster . . .

14+1 rounds from a compact shotgun? As our KSG post viewing stats and Oleg Volk’s fascination [below] prove, the buzz is building for this ballistic bad boy. We’ll make a beeline for it at SHOT. [Click here and here for more KSG gun porn]


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KEYWORDS: banglist; bullpup; keltec; shotgun
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To: The Comedian
"Maybe two. One for each thigh holster."

Perfect.

81 posted on 01/14/2011 3:04:08 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: marktwain

Interesting.


82 posted on 01/14/2011 3:42:01 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Gilbo_3
Er... there's actually an exception to this. It's called a "split" shell. If I post info here, admins will just yank it. I'll e-mail it to you though. :-)
83 posted on 01/14/2011 7:52:41 PM PST by hiredhand
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To: hiredhand
we discussed the 'split' shell before, still sounds 'iffy' for defense loadings unless you got reeeeaaaaly good at it...

and no way would i post it here, as i believe you are correct in that the post would be short lived...

#4 is prolly as heavy as i'd go anyways, with the way the house is laid out...beyond that, Im fightin towards a rifle and LOTS more renovating of the ole farmhouse...8^}

84 posted on 01/14/2011 9:01:28 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: marktwain
Kel-tec makes some creative firearms but they REALLY needs to work on their overall craftsmanship since their stuff tends to look very dingy.

On the other hand this shotgun looks like it may be the next hot thing if a) they make it in a semi-auto and b) improve on the feed mechanisms since it looks like its tough to feed rounds between the tube barrels.

85 posted on 01/14/2011 9:51:57 PM PST by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: marktwain

their website http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/


86 posted on 01/14/2011 10:06:37 PM PST by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Here are a couple of charts that make the size thing clearer:


Another factor is the number of pellets(rounds) in each shot shell.
Then there is pattern dispersion at x feet out from the muzzle.
Othe factors for consideration involve energy transfer (determined by velocity and pellet(round) weight(mass), shot pattern at anticipated distance and target cover (clothing, walls, windows, car-door, etc).
Even a .410 loaded with the appropriate shell is a devastating tool.
87 posted on 01/14/2011 11:13:14 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus - Domari Nolo)
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To: Tainan
Good info. And I agree with your comment:

"Even a .410 loaded with the appropriate shell is a devastating tool."

My first gun as a single-shotter .410.

But there is a school of thought that a 12 gauge with 00 buck or slugs is the sine qua non of home defense. But based on many factors, I think No. 4 buck is a better load, and that for home defense 20 gauge is better than 12. Lastly, I "love" that bullpup configuration for home defense. Much more maneuverable in the "tight confines" of a home situation.

88 posted on 01/15/2011 3:49:23 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: bossmechanic; Drumbo

“Pardon me folks but just what does this have over a Saiga 12 which is semi-auto with choice of 5,10,20 rd feeds? Ya, it looks cooler than a stock Saiga but I just don’t get the excitement.”

What, are you kiddin? Even as the owner of a Saiga12 (which I love), I need a cigarette after looking at this new shottie.

In fact the Saiga has me rather spoiled, but perhaps I could handle this new KelTec with its stock into my shoulder and forward vertical grip to pump.


89 posted on 01/15/2011 10:45:53 AM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Syntyr

Does the shotgun come with the girl too?


90 posted on 01/16/2011 12:17:59 PM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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