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To: mrmeyer
I have real issues against the 9 mm. It is a pathetic round compared to the .357, 44 mag or 45 ACP.

If I were a perp, I would prefer that anyone defending themselves use a 9. I would stand a much better chance of walking away from that pathetic round, able to recover and offend another day. The only one more pathetic than that round is the .38 Special.

48 posted on 01/11/2011 1:08:57 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I own 9mm, .357, and .22lr though for HD it's a 12 gauge. Eventually I'll pick up a .45, most likely a Springfield Armory 1911 Loaded Parkerized and then perhaps a Glock in .45.

I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of any of those calibers you mentioned. Shot placement is the key. Though .45 ACP is the only round I'd trust using FMJ for SD.
52 posted on 01/11/2011 1:22:39 PM PST by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I have real issues against the 9 mm. It is a pathetic round compared to the .357, 44 mag or 45 ACP. If I were a perp, I would prefer that anyone defending themselves use a 9. I would stand a much better chance of walking away from that pathetic round, able to recover and offend another day. The only one more pathetic than that round is the .38 Special.

The 9mm proved very deadly last Saturday in Tucson.

The most important part of CCW is safety and practice. Many people cannot afford to shoot a few hundred rounds at a time of .357, .40, .44, or .45 at the range and/or they cannot handle the blast from those rounds, which means that the first shot better be perfect because there may not be an accurate second or third shot.

I carry a Springfield XD 9mm Subcompact because I know that I can reliably place five shots in the kill zone in a couple of seconds at 25 yards or less, and I don't have the same confidence with the higher calibers. Also, in case you haven't noticed, Cor-Bon, Speer, Federal, and Remington make high velocity, jacketed hollow point 9mm +p rounds that are as effective as the higher calibers, particularly if you need a second or third shoot.

63 posted on 01/11/2011 1:55:49 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
"I have real issues against the 9 mm. It is a pathetic round compared to the .357, 44 mag or 45 ACP."

uh...Loughner and the guy at Virginia Tech both used 9mm. In this case, Loughner killed 6 and left a bunch more injured. From Loughner's perspective, I'm sure he thinks that the 9mm was quite effective and he probably got a lot more shots off because you can fit more rounds in the large "clips" er....I mean magazines.
66 posted on 01/11/2011 2:05:09 PM PST by AdamBomb
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Ah yes, caliber comparison bashing. The truth is, accuracy is of greater importance than caliber size.

BTW, I own a p220ST in .45 auto, P229 in .40 S&W and .357 Sig, three 1911s in .45 auto, one 1911 in .38 Super, and a few other Sigs and HKs in 9mm.

100 posted on 01/11/2011 3:00:18 PM PST by Cobra64
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